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    A WHM Concept

    What this concept does is give WHM a better gauge that isn't Secret of the Lily, while using both the aspects of Presence of Mind, Thin Air, and Assize. Because this new Gauge integrates Presence of Mind and Thin Air, both of these Actions will be removed. Barring the removed Actions, most of the Actions remain mostly unchanged with regards to functionality. Three new actions were added to supplement the removal of Thin Air, Presence of Mind, and the level reduction of Assize; merely for the sake of quests.

    Here's the full concept at this Pastebin link due to the Character Limit of the Post:
    https://pastebin.com/vHYnjGyb

    Edit: There's a slight Error at Line 42 in the pastebin; that interaction is only suppose to happen with R&S II which is noted further below.
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    Last edited by LittleLamb32; 08-15-2017 at 05:06 AM.

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    While I don't know that this is really fully balanced the concept and most of the abilities are things I enjoy. I love the symbolism.

    I think that this would ultimately prove too complicated for some people though. WHM is "the basic healer" generally. I'm not saying I like that or agree with it but it's the truth.

    Also it feels like SE definitely wouldn't encourage buffs to be reliant on healer DPS. Again, I don't agree with it but I feel like it's a significant hurdle.

    All in all though I love the concept.

    Also you can get around the character limit by editing your post and if you're on mobile you can just view the desktop site to edit your post
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    The problem with this is that you'll wind up fighting yourself. You do a couple healing spells, tip the scales, and then you have time to DPS. If you DPS, you're just tipping them back and undoing what you previously did, so to get the full bonus you skip doing DPS? There's a lot of fights where you wouldn't really move the scales significantly at all if you're maximizing your output. It seems like that's why Assize simply becomes enabled after a set number of spells no matter where the scale is.

    This is the same problem that PI's first version had, and to a lesser extent Secret of the Lily still has: it encourages you to do suboptimal things to make the meter go up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    The problem with this is that you'll wind up fighting yourself. You do a couple healing spells, tip the scales, and then you have time to DPS. If you DPS, you're just tipping them back and undoing what you previously did, so to get the full bonus you skip doing DPS? There's a lot of fights where you wouldn't really move the scales significantly at all if you're maximizing your output. It seems like that's why Assize simply becomes enabled after a set number of spells no matter where the scale is.

    This is the same problem that PI's first version had, and to a lesser extent Secret of the Lily still has: it encourages you to do suboptimal things to make the meter go up.
    This. And while the Secret of the Lily mechanic can at least return its GCD costs with the half-minute DB on the tank, this doesn't. It's more in the vein of pick your Sect (Raw Healing or Everything Else) and needle yourself repeatedly if you need to swap.
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