RDM's Vercure should be removed or heavily nerfed

[Neela]

I'm fine though if you want to stop here. Makes no difference to me, personally. Also I checked, this thread itself has had FFLogs links posted in it before and it's still running.

I count 4 threads since SB which were deleted cause fflogs-data were bases for (big) discussions about balancing. just wanted to say that. if other threads survive fine for me : O

[Dualgunner]

I count 4 threads since SB which were deleted cause fflogs-data were bases for (big) discussions about balancing. just wanted to say that. if other threads survive fine for me : O

Fair enough, SE are finicky about numbers and that's a whole different discussion entirely.

[Dyvid]

Simple solution on the raise issue:

Verraise recast time change to 60s - same cooldown as swiftcast.
Allow Phoenix Down to be used in combat - recast timer 5 minute cooldown.

[Raikai]

Instead you should ask for SMN's Physick being ajusted to INT instead, so it will actually be useful for anything, and everybody else getting buffed in their respective skills.

[Vallhallix]

Since SMN can actually absorb the essence from primals and what not it would be kinda cool if SMN could get a damage reduction boost in DWT stance maybe even a little passive healing while in the stance, but knowing Square it wouldn't be balanced.

[HolyTurtle]

if i see 700+ rdms, 120+ blm and <50 smn fflog uploads alone for the last savage tier – rdm really have a hard time hm?

What kind of retarded statements is this? The popularity of a dps class is not positively correlated to its dps performance. Here is the average ranking of RDM dps performance on the current tier savage:
- 10/20/30/.../80 percentile: 5th/6th out of 9 DPS; 3rd out of 3 casters
- 90/95 percentile: 7th out of 9 DPS; 3rd out of 3 casters
- 99 percentile: 6th out of 9 DPS; 3rd out of 3 casters

Rdm is just "the" cls everybody can feel great with no skill, no complexity, no punishment, no positionals, much forgiveness, high dps even if you faceroll your keyboard.

Such an ignorant statement.
- "High dps even if you faceroll your keyboard"? The fflog data doesn't support your claim. At all skill levels, RDM dps is inferior to other casters' dps.
- "no complexity, no punishment,... , much forgiveness" we pay for these with our inferior dps compared to other casters.

[Trunks]

Allow Phoenix Down to be used in combat - recast timer 5 minute cooldown.

What is this, the Oprah Winfrey Show?

You get a Raise! You get a Raise! You get a Raise! EVERY-BODY. GETS. A. RAISE!!!

[Darian]

What kind of retarded statements is this? The popularity of a dps class is not positively correlated to its dps performance. Here is the average ranking of RDM dps performance on the current tier savage:
- 10/20/30/.../80 percentile: 5th/6th out of 9 DPS; 3rd out of 3 casters
- 90/95 percentile: 7th out of 9 DPS; 3rd out of 3 casters
- 99 percentile: 6th out of 9 DPS; 3rd out of 3 casters



Such an ignorant statement.
- "High dps even if you faceroll your keyboard"? The fflog data doesn't support your claim. At all skill levels, RDM dps is inferior to other casters' dps.
- "no complexity, no punishment,... , much forgiveness" we pay for these with our inferior dps compared to other casters.

You can show ppl here all the fflog data that shows RDM is fine and they will still ignore it. Lol. Numbers and data mean nothing unfortunately.

[Kabooa]

You can show ppl here all the fflog data that shows RDM is fine and they will still ignore it. Lol. Numbers and data mean nothing unfortunately.

FFLogs doesn't give the class the RDPS it brings in the final tally.

Red Mage is generally brought in PDPS groups with Monk/Samurai, Ninja, and Bard/Mach.

So you have to add approximately 1% of the same percentile from Two of: War, Dark, Paladin (little less) and from Monk Or Sam, Ninja, and Bard or Mach.

This generally bumps Red Mage up by around 150-200. The disparity between them and Black Mage / Summoner is actually fairly small.

[MaikoRaines]

Rdm is just "the" cls everybody can feel great with no skill, no complexity, no punishment, no positionals, much forgiveness, high dps even if you faceroll your keyboard.

Ever the ignorant comment if I've seen one in this post. I've seen many.