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    Gokuhan's Avatar
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    Gokuhan Kai
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    Siren
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    Lancer Lv 80

    QoL for BLM: Astral Fire/Umbral Ice w/ 0 dmg

    They have done it for jobs like BRD and SMN/SCH, lets have it for BLM too!

    It sucks when a boss goes invulnerable half way through casting your spell and your Astral Fire or Umbral Ice falls off and then it's bye bye Enochian and so long Foul timer.

    Can we have spells apply Astral Fire or Umbral Ice even if an enemy takes no damage or is otherwise invulnerable, please?
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    Liara Lothaire
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    Tonberry
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    That would be nice, I often find though that the game is pretty lenient, even if a mob dies as I'm casting something it counts it as if it landed.

    Also, we've got Transpose which works as an emergency timer extender, saved me many a time on many a boss.
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    Myria Brood
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Actually, You can Transpose indefinitly now. Astral Fire and Umbral Ice are 13 seconds while Transpose is 12 seconds. Will you end up in a preferred stance? maybe not. But you'll keep enochian and Foul timer going.
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    Miuna Shiodome
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulofrebirth View Post
    Actually, You can Transpose indefinitly now. Astral Fire and Umbral Ice are 13 seconds while Transpose is 12 seconds. Will you end up in a preferred stance? maybe not. But you'll keep enochian and Foul timer going.
    Add 400 ping to that and you have about 0.6s to decide to use Transpose or not after your spell does 0 dmg and gives you no stacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valinis View Post
    Add 400 ping to that and you have about 0.6s to decide to use Transpose or not after your spell does 0 dmg and gives you no stacks.
    That's true, but knowledge of the content comes into play there. Casters in particular are rewarded when they are standing in the right place, or precasting something, or transpose before an invulnerability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaene View Post
    That would be nice, I often find though that the game is pretty lenient, even if a mob dies as I'm casting something it counts it as if it landed.

    Also, we've got Transpose which works as an emergency timer extender, saved me many a time on many a boss.
    That is because the servers are slow. You got about a .5?- 2 sec? (something in this range) to deal damage to dead monsters.

    Transpose does not work if you have say 1 second left , it lands, immune > transpose has no effect
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valinis View Post
    Add 400 ping to that and you have about 0.6s to decide to use Transpose or not after your spell does 0 dmg and gives you no stacks.
    Might as well reduce Transpose's cooldown then.
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    Lyrai Celestine
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    Transpose for emergency AF/UI swapping always works, mate. I admit I still fail at using Transpose when it was necessary to keep up the buff, but I'll keep learning, and reminding myself to keep it up, so I'll never lose my Foul timer
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokuhan View Post
    They have done it for jobs like BRD and SMN/SCH, lets have it for BLM too!

    It sucks when a boss goes invulnerable half way through casting your spell and your Astral Fire or Umbral Ice falls off and then it's bye bye Enochian and so long Foul timer.

    Can we have spells apply Astral Fire or Umbral Ice even if an enemy takes no damage or is otherwise invulnerable, please?
    I'll never understand why SE thought it was a "fantastic idea" to make it so that the Invincibility buff some mobs get completely removes Astral/Umbral if Fire/Blizzard so much as touches it (I think casting Blizzard IV on Invincibility even removed Enochian back in HW... but that could have been a nightmare).
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    Might as well reduce Transpose's cooldown then.
    Remove the CD entirely in my opinion.
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