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[NinjaTaru72]

PC players.

Here's a question while you opened the can of worms anyway; there are quite a few right, this is full automation... Now, how many PC users do you imagine are using 'gaming hardware+software' to automate a lot (like target, rotation, potion, call-out), but not everything like this? Let me answer it for you: even more.

Best is to ignore them and play the way you like to play. When ignoring them becomes impossible, things are bound to change anyway.

Well that's against the rules, so ban them too. Shouldn't be breaking rules in the first place.

[Paladinleeds]

Well that's against the rules, so ban them too. Shouldn't be breaking rules in the first place.

But technically, even using Razer Synapse (which let's use the DeathStalker Ultimate as an example, if you want the touch screen on my keyboard to work with apps like the internet browser, etc, you need Synapse) is against ToS. So should someone be banned for using a program for something like that as part of its overall functionality package? What about rebinding the keys on their Orbweaver so they can actually use them in FFXIV, they're not set to automate the game, they still have to press and hold the keys to move for example, but they've adjusted the 8 way thumbgrid on it to be the keys that target party members while in FFXIV? They're still technically using software that's against ToS because of its ability to repogram keys including to macros, but it's required to use the hardware they have bought (for example, they could have a guide open on their keyboard through the integrated YouTube app, but not without Synapse installed and running), should they be banned for that?

Bringing up the rules, it's very vague, and while the automation part is clear, the 3rd party apps thing is less so, as their rules also hit hardware manufacturers like Razer who use software that breaches the rules because of SOME of its functionality, such that the rules state you could be banned for simply having it installed (which it's either that or your £150 gamepad is pretty much useless, since some of the keys on the gamepad are disabled by default until you rebind them in Synapse). It creates a very slippery slope, but what are your thoughts on that?

[LalaRu]

...even using Razer Synapse... is against ToS...

Nope, you can use it also for tournaments as the recent bns one. Synapse (and almost all other brands of high end gear) have a "no macro" mode you will enable for playing there.

Dunno about the logitech or others, but online drivers as Synapse can let me create on the fly an offline driver for tournament usage (aka no macros) to use when I move to tournament locations.

[Paladinleeds]

but online drivers as Synapse can let me create on the fly an offline driver for tournament usage (aka no macros) to use when I move to tournament locations.

But, will Synapse let you use the touch screen apps of the DeathStalker Ultimate in the offline mode (example, I use the numpad app on the touch screen to shift out certain things)? If not, then it's still kind of a no-go unfortunately. I don't have a numpad without those apps being usable. Problem is, those apps could be counted as against ToS even if I'm just using it as a numberpad.

That being said, I didn't know about the offline mode on the app. It wasn't there when I first bought my Razer gear, and they never really advertised the feature, so it came as a surprise to me. So thanks for giving me the heads up on that, I had a little play around with it.

[LalaRu]

...they never really advertised the feature, so it came as a surprise to me. So thanks for giving me the heads up on that, I had a little play around with it.

Maybe not much known because not much players are really going to "physical" tournaments with their hardware. I will take with me keyboard and mouse and that drivers.

You will found the feature in the account menu, it is called "Tournament Drivers", and the "include macros" most of the times must be off (some tournaments allows them).