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    Katlyna's Avatar
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggyzapps View Post
    The next set of gear could still be class based, if so almost every omni crafter is going to to put VI into white gear. I'd be surprised if the next gear is universal, class based gear is one of the few ways to balance specialist and omni crafters.
    Actually crafted class based gear doesn't balance omni crafters. Core omni crafters are one of few people who can throw enough money out to gear up and materia multiple sets. Consequently they cut their own costs (able to make all their own intermediates) and completely eliminate solo specialist competition.

    Class based gear which requires a weekly grind initially is fair for everyone... but once you fall behind, you become financially blocked out... and again only the dedicated core omnicrafters come out ontop.

    As others have noted the whole crafting system needs some systemic changes.
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    Ziggy Zaps
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
    Actually crafted class based gear doesn't balance omni crafters. Core omni crafters are one of few people who can throw enough money out to gear up and materia multiple sets. Consequently they cut their own costs (able to make all their own intermediates) and completely eliminate solo specialist competition.
    We wouldn't gear up and meld 8 different class sets , we would just pay 50-100 mil to meld one set. Class sets would just be for people who don't have 50-100 mil or only want to craft in a few jobs. If we get another universal set it just means it's going to be easy mode again, they can't balance melds between casuals and hardcore players. Being able to make your own intermediates never mattered much, I've never had other chars or anyone to make them for me and it's never been an issue.
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    Rurulu Namilu
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggyzapps View Post
    We wouldn't gear up and meld 8 different class sets , we would just pay 50-100 mil to meld one set.
    At the start of Heavensward, class sets were BiS. Before Ironworks was released, only those who basically max melded class sets could craft the latest recipes (for Midas raid). As a result, omnicrafters made hundreds of millions of gil. Crafting became a lot more accessible once they released the universal Ironworks gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lulunami View Post
    only those who basically max melded class sets could craft the latest recipes (for Midas raid)
    The white set could hit crafting requirements, I crafted everything during 3.2 and I know I never crafted and melded 8 different sets. Class sets just made it easier on the melds, and judging by the crazy meld caps on the current white set, it's probably going to be the same deal this time around.
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