In terms of potency, and saved time, it's always a gain to caster LB insanely big pulls. No idea why some people don't do it.I've done the same in a dungeon. A tank MASSIVELY over-pulled. Not really his fault. He pulled a few, more came from the sides and then a second wave came from nowhere. Healer was running low, tank was nearly dead. I used a limit break and it all got handled quickly.
Sometimes the situation calls for it.
Agreed. As tank I specifically request DPS LB on certain large, difficult pulls if I feel the DPS or healer may not be able to handle it normally. It can make the difference between a wipe and a smooth kill. That said, I have run into DPS and healers who are so badass that they don't need LB to demolish the mobs and keep me alive on large pulls. Rarely, but it's a welcome surprise when it happens. Just today I had an Ala Mhigo run where I pulled everything from the first laser grid all the way to the second near the final boss' doorstep. A difficult triple pull that often results in wipes. The healer and DPS mopped up and kept me alive it like it was nothing.
I did one similar to that on my bard don't remember the run was a while ago.From a few days ago, I was farming Sophia EX. In one of the runs, the RDM performed a beautiful Displacement... right off the edge of the platform. And it almost killed me because I was laughing too hard to focus. I'm sure it wasn't very funny to them, but watching someone pull off a backflip to their death was just plain magical.
OMG AOE NEED TO GET OUT!
*jump back lands with toes holding on to edge*
That was close!
Then I step backwards half a step.
Healer died from standing in bad. Tank dropped due to no heals. BLM said screw it, yelled Cowabunga, and jumped...
Tank and healer apologized. Both laughing so hard at the, as the tank put it, short walk off a long drop. Healer said they saw me land right on the edge, was typing you just used your luck for the week and before they hit enter I stepped off.
We killed it on next pull and ran 2 more.



Had a funny trial last night. It was Titan HM. NEW newbie message, no sprouts, other tank was in DPS stance. I hit Shield and while I was running I get a Light Party message. One of the healers quit. It hasn't even been 30 secs. A new healer joins in time to get Landslided off. Bombs go off and another landslide. My pinky toe must have been in or something cause next thing I know I'm falling. Down a tank and healer, the rest of the party carry us. It was weird run, but they were all good sports and laughed about it.
Speaking of carrying, fresh story from this morning.
Queue for a trial and it's ravana. The tank is new (and clearly nearly everyone is new as it all goes downhill pretty quick) and asks for any tips. One of the DPS says "Don't die", as though it's like... so easy that there's no need to worry about it.
And I don't say a thing, because I'm always curious how these things will turn out. Will they figure out that the arena gets broken and you can fall? Will they figure out off-tank gets hit with cleaves for a long time? The wing/tail shields? The answer is invariably, of course not. So, we have 2 DPS fall off the arena at the first knockoff, another DPS and the healer die thanks to cleaves... all in all, 4/8 people fell off (all the DPS, including the one that said 'Don't die' since clearly, this is so easy) the other healer and tank are dead, and it's just me and the surviving tank who ended up ultimately killing him. That's right, we ended up clearing it.
Not DF or PF, but..
Our main healer was late for raiding last night, so my static decided to go for unsync Sophia Ex for WT. I got the bird way back when it first came out, prior to token turnin, and hadn't gone back. But hey, it was easy then and we're overgeared now, right?
On the first tilt (after skipping a ton of mecanics), someone calls out for a soft pull.. and we all go flying. I commented that the two blue was always hard, so someone suggested following me.. and I sent everyone to their deaths on the next go. In the third pull, a RDM is constantly throwing out resses and I was desperately healing without faerie or MP, when I realized I actually forgot how the even/odd hard/soft is paired. We wiped at 13%, just after the other healer showed up. So much for my comment that it'd be easy.


Freaking Clemency trigger happy paladins... "oh my health is dropping, better Clemency back up"... except there's an Excog waiting to fire when you drop below 50%... had so many of them wasted in Sirensong just now because of the triggerhappiness towards Clemency...
White Mage ~ Sage ~ AstrologianBoi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing
As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.




Oh yes, I've had this happen several times now too. Any time a certain type of PLD's hp drops below 80-75% they panic and act like they have to clemency spam. Best advice I got in that situation is to 'fish' for excog heals- don't bother casting it unless they are already below 50%, using it more like an supped-up lustrate instead of as a pre-pull cast. When I run into those type of tanks now I usually just dps until they burn through their mp, then go back to healing.Freaking Clemency trigger happy paladins... "oh my health is dropping, better Clemency back up"... except there's an Excog waiting to fire when you drop below 50%... had so many of them wasted in Sirensong just now because of the triggerhappiness towards Clemency...
A lot of people don't actually understand how other classes work and just assume from previous PF experience they're about to die. I normally eat a death before I decide to blow the dust off my clemency button but you might wanna reassure trigger happy tanks and RDMs it usually helps.
I tried that! The response I got was "don't trust u". So encouraging! So I stopped healing them period outside of aoes for raidwides, since they were just gonna waste my excog anyway.A lot of people don't actually understand how other classes work and just assume from previous PF experience they're about to die. I normally eat a death before I decide to blow the dust off my clemency button but you might wanna reassure trigger happy tanks and RDMs it usually helps.
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