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  1. #161
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    Archamgel's Avatar
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    Logan Grayborn
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nhisso View Post
    Yeah, but no.
    Healers wasting mana on DPS EVERY time they arent healing are bad.
    Yeah, no. Sitting on full MP (because unless you are overhealing or not using any refresh skills, that is exactly what will happen) is wasting MP and is the sign of a bad healer. Even solo healing savages with PF groups allows me time to dps and run no risk of going oom.
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  2. 08-10-2017 03:28 PM

  3. #162
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    Pinkette69's Avatar
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    Faith Shine
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    *enters dungeon*
    *Tank mashes sprint button and grabs 3 packs of mobs*
    *I catch up to the almost dead tank and give him Benediction*
    *I get locked into chain-casting Cure2, not having enough time or MP to do anything else*

    How again was I supposed to DPS?
    You Hit The Nail On The Head! This is what happens to me 98 percent of the time. I DPS when I can. DPSing by a healer is option...a bonus. DPSing should be Healers Choice.
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    FAITH IS.............Seeing light with your HEART, When all your EYES see is darkness.

  4. #163
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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nhisso View Post
    Healers wasting mana on DPS EVERY time they arent healing are bad.
    So... I do DPS when I don't have to heal.

    By your logic I am bad right?

    Why am I able to clear savage raids on healer?

    I DPS when I don't need to heal in all content...I keep everyone alive and I DPS and we clear just fine. How can I do this if I am bad?

    Something really doesn't make sense about what you are claiming here :/
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    Last edited by Miste; 08-10-2017 at 04:53 PM.

  5. #164
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    ximxim's Avatar
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    Ximus Greget
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 70
    These toxic thread, posted by toxic people... so much toxic-ness now days... ~.~

    Did you actually pay others sub so you can order people how to play their toons? No you did not right!

    If you really that Godly playing whatever toons you have, then for the love of Twelve, please do us a favor to solo every contents SE offer... less drama, less toxic people involve for us who likes to enjoy how we play our toons. And don't give us that crap saying " you are a bad healer" blablabla 'cause you know it is you who actually got bad attitude pissing other people off =.=
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  6. #165
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    Starflake's Avatar
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    Freja Reginleif
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ximxim View Post
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    It's always you lunatics who come in here with their buzzwords. Toxic, elitist, you don't pay my sub! You, my man, are a walking meme. What is it with you people and subscriptions anyway? Do you pay mine? Does you having paid for your subscription somehow enable you to waste my time and be a terrible player. I've had a tank once who in Aurum Vale pulled whole rooms while using no cooldowns and occassionally standing in the yellow poison throwing more damage on top of already more damage. I asked him if he could at least use cooldowns to which he gave the "you don't pay my sub" response. To which I politely told him that I wouldn't be healing him anymore as he too is not paying my subscription. You see, paying a subscription means nothing and is often uttered by stupid people who can not play this game properly and have to be a nuiscance to the people who do. The people who are ultradefensive are in fact most of the time just terrible players. So you can continue moaning that people don't pay your sub, or you can actively try and become a better player so that, you know, the people you come into contact with have an ally, someone who contributes, rather than just stand there doing nothing half the time.
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  7. #166
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    AmeliaVerves's Avatar
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    Amelia Wafflesmack
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    *enters dungeon*
    *Tank mashes sprint button and grabs 3 packs of mobs*
    *I catch up to the almost dead tank and give him Benediction*
    *I get locked into chain-casting Cure2, not having enough time or MP to do anything else*

    How again was I supposed to DPS?
    Regen + Asylum on Tank -> Swiftcast + Holy -> Enemies are stunned -> Thin Air + Holy spam -> Tetra/Assize when needed.
    With the almost constant stunn Holy gives the HoTs have enough time to heal the tank and the huge damage kills the mobs super fast.
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    I don't know, man.

  8. #167
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    I realize this, there was just a side conversation arising about a quote Yoshida made discussing whether or not healer DPS was required in the game's design, and the answer is that it wasn't. We seem to all be in agreement on this point.
    Other than the fact that by his own admission, the Savage raid encounters are designed to require healer DPS to beat when they are first added to the game. :P
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  9. #168
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    Starflake's Avatar
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    Freja Reginleif
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
    Regen + Asylum on Tank -> Swiftcast + Holy -> Enemies are stunned -> Thin Air + Holy spam -> Tetra/Assize when needed.
    With the almost constant stunn Holy gives the HoTs have enough time to heal the tank and the huge damage kills the mobs super fast.
    This and don't forget that Benediction is a great thing to use as well. When you're as comfortable healing as I am, it becomes a natural thing. Let tank dip low and use Benidiction if I don't have Tetra. It's a three minute cooldown and seems like such a waste to not use it. You can use it up to 5 times in a good dungeon run.
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  10. #169
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    AmeliaVerves's Avatar
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    Amelia Wafflesmack
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    This and don't forget that Benediction is a great thing to use as well. When you're as comfortable healing as I am, it becomes a natural thing. Let tank dip low and use Benidiction if I don't have Tetra. It's a three minute cooldown and seems like such a waste to not use it. You can use it up to 5 times in a good dungeon run.
    Yeah, I know that, but I was referring to the post I quoted especially and that person said he/she already used benediction, so that would not be available in that moment.
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    I don't know, man.

  11. #170
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    Alisi's Avatar
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    Tempest Deep
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    Twintania
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MoarLegion View Post
    In S/NES Era final fantasies where you had one character be a dedicated healer, you didn't just have them stand there for a turn when healing wasn't needed.

    Why are we treating this game any different?
    Except this isn't true at all. You absolutely did let the healer do nothing for a turn if there was no healing needed. Healers had no offensive spells, besides maybe holy. Back in the day, your MP didn't regen back. LOL. You didn't waste MP on spells. You either had your healer block or you had them beat the monster with their sticks (which would be like 1 damage so there was no difference.) Ethers were hard to come by and places to sleep/tent and save were rather rare too. The only dedicated healer that had offensive skills was probably Rose and who honestly depended on her DPS? LOL
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