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  1. #11
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    TheMax1087's Avatar
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    Maximillion Xameht
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauro View Post
    im Happy with Dragoons Buff

    Heavy Thrust Potency increased from 100 to 140.
    Chaos Thrust Combo potency increased from 220 to 230.
    Potency when executed from a target's rear reduced from 150 to 140.
    Fang and Claw Potency increased from 200 to 250.
    Wheeling Thrust Potency increased from 200 to 250.
    Those are buffs that only apply when you miss a positional. The potency for when you actually land a positional is unchanged.
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  2. #12
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    Garu Dyne
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    This isn't a nerf. Your Combo potency will be the same if you hit the rear.
    Whoever, if you miss it, you'll hit for 20 potency MORE. It's a buff for those situations where you can't reach the back of a target for various reasons.
    The issue is that a lot of people are not reading this change correctly. It's changing the non-rear combo potency giving you more damage and lowering the rear non-combo potency which you shouldn't be hitting anyway since you wouldn't be noncomboing Aeolian anyway.
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  3. #13
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    Dia Beetus
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    The change is to make missing positionals less punishing. To bring up the dps of nin that dont necesarily hit the positional all the time.

    If u are uber nin that never misses positional, ur potency will remain unchanged.
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  4. #14
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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by zeopower6 View Post
    The issue is that a lot of people are not reading this change correctly. It's changing the non-rear combo potency giving you more damage and lowering the rear non-combo potency which you shouldn't be hitting anyway since you wouldn't be noncomboing Aeolian anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phileas View Post
    The change is to make missing positionals less punishing. To bring up the dps of nin that dont necesarily hit the positional all the time.

    If u are uber nin that never misses positional, ur potency will remain unchanged.
    This not to mention Savage bosses are having enough uptime when they twist or force you in front for mechanics and true north can't be used all the time.
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  5. #15
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    Benzin Ying
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    My opinion nin is actually the lowest mele dps by far and need a real buff , drg was fine i do understand this buff above the other dps class.
    But plz nin is worth behind than drg , i mean for my experience , i main nin i can't do in time the v4 savage dps check ilvl320 with perfect rotation the best regard of crit proc etc is 5% etc , and dude i do whatever (well i don't align the Naestron well with bfb so this is what i said by not doing a perfect rotation) facerolling my head on the keyboard with my drg same ilvl and i do it -_-
    I do not prefer talk about the sam with him i'm parsed at 4k2 ilvl 309, plz come on...
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  6. #16
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zexth View Post
    Well with the recent buffs to Dragoons
    You just explained how reducing positional dependence, with zero increase to DPS ceiling, was a non-buff for NIN. Then you look at the exact same for DRG and call it a buff?
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  7. #17
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    Ren Okamiya
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    Ragnarok
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    Ninja Lv 70
    My real concern here is the decrease of the non combo potency.
    I'm always using it when I know the boss is going to jump or become untargetable if i'm not currently mid-combo because a raw AE have a better potency than everything else when not comboing (susano is a great example of when i'm using that when he pops up his sword).

    I'm far from being the best ninja here but I dont really get the lasts few changes besides helping the lazy ones
    At least, the class is still fun to play so...
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  8. #18
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    Dorian Makai
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Nin is essentially the best Melee dps right now. Exactly how many crappy nins have you guys been with to think i ts the lowest and the worst?
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  9. #19
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    Dorian Makai
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    The nin in my FC parsed 4.2k on nin at that same iLv... literally just this week... so... maybe the class just.... isn't for you perhaps?
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  10. #20
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    Levi Invidia
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    HAHAHA! they took away our little phase change niche with the non combo potency Aeolian Edge!!!

    Before, if you can anticipate a within 4~5 seconds (2.5 GCDs), you can do 2 un-combo Aeolian Edge, for a 360 potency (vs the Spinning > Gust which is 350 potency) before jump/kill. I doubt this was the reason, but it was among the many little niche ninja had.
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