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  1. #171
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Speed of tome acquisition is something I don't understand, you have a full week to cap them, doing it in a day does not change much. Maybe lesser tomes for alt jobs can make sense, yes.
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  2. #172
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    LunaFaye's Avatar
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    Luna Faye
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Speed of tome acquisition is something I don't understand, you have a full week to cap them, doing it in a day does not change much. Maybe lesser tomes for alt jobs can make sense, yes.
    Sorry but I don't. I have 2 days out of the week that I can play due to my personal life and my job. I don't feel like logging into the game after a 12hr day etc. Or sometimes I might have other plans over the week, the game isn't my first priority, so getting that out of the way right at the beginning of the week, isn't that bad tbh. Many others are in the same boat.
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  3. #173
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    GenericMagus's Avatar
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    Generika Nameius
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    Zodiark
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I never say anything about healers in any content unless it's Savage. If they're healing OK, they're fine, they're doing what they queued up to do. If they DPS while healing, it's a nice bonus, all it is.

    Their are varying levels of skill when it comes to playing jobs. Are 0 DPS heals lazy? Not exactly a statement of being lazy without looking at the background and reasoning. Perhaps the tanks undergeared, DPS eating AoEs, healer undergeared/meeting min ilv checks, etc.

    So all I'm saying is, in regular daily ran content, don't get upset at healers being just healers if they're doing their job correctly. They just needed the DPS skills to get past solo content, that's all, any DPS in group content is a bonus. Remember, SE doesn't take into account healer DPS when designing battles, so if a healer does DPS, it's a bonus.

    Pure DPS healers are probably what happens if you ignore the above and tend to pigeonhole not DPSing as being bad and not doing your job.
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  4. #174
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    I have 2 days out of the week that I can play
    Will understand, got in that boat quite often too. It is just, when time is low and priorities other, rushing for something in game feels pointless in the long run and I'd prefer take it easy over capping tomes.

    Edit: I guess we got a bit OT, sorry OP :*
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    Last edited by LalaRu; 08-07-2017 at 10:43 PM.

  5. #175
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    akaneakki's Avatar
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    Liza Sol
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    Twintania
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    It is because almost everyone doing that in their i330. Do it at base ilevel and lets talk again about it. Sometime I wonder why some people goes there when loot is sub their armor, maybe helping friends?
    I did omega as tank ilvl 300 and tanked the shit without tank stance. What you on about? Both healers did over 1.2k dps too.
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  6. #176
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    Bracken's Avatar
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    Thamuz Sect
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    Zodiark
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Oh nah, I'm super chatty and social and love to make jokes. I mean, I'm a tank, if I don't break the ice who will? Incidentally, the only time dps take a dirt nap is when the healer ignores them after raid wide AoE for the sake of more DPS, so... have fun with that?
    that is one sour puss right there, a tank this high needs more than healing, they need a hospital.

    I would gladly take a 30 min lockout just for you
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  7. #177
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    Driskus Blackstone
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    You have thin air, Saints and assize. I solo healed it on first try since healer dc. I dpsed and kept people alive, so you must be doing something terrible wrong like over healing. Whm shouldnt have mp issues.
    Not saying that I run out every time. I don't have issues if people aren't dying constantly and the co-healer is at least contributing to some extent. It's more of a problem with running out when things are going very wrong, such as DPS constantly eating the floor from not dodging (you can't always get multiple raises off during Thin Air if you end up dodging multiple AoEs yourself), and occasionally with tanks who refuse to use tank stance & cooldowns (they need almost constant babysitting to keep them up. Sometimes Stormsplitter will still one-shot them, which usually results in more chaos). When SCHs are just sitting there with nearly full MP while people are either dead or about to die, something is horribly wrong with that SCH, since at that point they obviously should be trying to do SOMETHING as far as emergency healing instead of just sitting there continuing to DPS 100%.
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    Last edited by Driskus; 08-08-2017 at 12:02 PM.

  8. #178
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    I healed the omega normal floors for the first time today and I'm even more confused about this topic than before. Floors 1-3 don't require barely any healing at all (and don't really have any tank busters), healing them for the first time I was able to do around 2k DPS in each as WHM (and sometimes had higher HPS than my cohealer so I didn't leave healing to them). In floor 4 some AoE healing was required for Meteors and other AoEs, but the tank busters did barely anything (and I was doing over 1k DPS on the first run I did there too). For most part in each floor, tank was well covered with Regen (+ Fairy if SCH co-healer) and occasional Assize / Asylum.

    I did not see healers who wouldn't heal, but instead some pretty impressive overhealing, such as casting Medica on the party while there were already two Medica II regens ticking on everyone and no incoming damage in near future, or Cure III on party while I had already Medica II ticking and used Assize as soon as an AoE hit landed...
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    Last edited by Taika; 08-09-2017 at 03:03 AM.

  9. #179
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    akaneakki's Avatar
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    Liza Sol
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    Twintania
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    but instead some pretty impressive overhealing, such as casting Medica on the party while there were already two Medica II regens ticking on everyone and no incoming damage in near future, or Cure III on party while I had already Medica II ticking and used Assize as soon as an AoE hit landed...
    You just described a lot of forum healers lol.
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  10. #180
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    ...Floors 1-3 don't require barely any healing at all...
    O1 have Charybdis, an unavoidable aoe that makes the party go 1% hp. There it needs heavy and fast healing.
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    Last edited by LalaRu; 08-09-2017 at 06:11 PM.

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