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  1. #11341
    Player
    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Siesta Fiesta
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    I would just like to say that if roulette drops anyone into Stone Vigil and they immediately GTFO, I wouldn't blame them. Because it's probably the 3000th time they've seen that dungeon, and if their party members are anything like what I got as WHM yesterday, I could never blame them.

    A DRK in level 35-40 white, NQ, NPC gear, who decided pulling 6+ mobs without any cooldowns was a good idea. A SMN whose idea of DPSing involved nothing but Ruin, Energy Drain, and regular old Drain.

    I managed to keep everyone alive throughout that run, at the cost of my tolerance for any more Leveling Roulette.
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  2. #11342
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    raela's Avatar
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    Raela Sarinelle
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Weekly V4, and I guess my cohealer was lagging.. he ate almost every mechanic. DPS, also, kept eating mechanics, though not as bad. The tanks were good (one being a friend I queued in with), but halfway through, friend's connection dropped him and his character remained in the game, blocking him from returning.

    We had as low as 3 people for the stack due to deaths, and swiftcast was on cool down the whole time for me. We built LB3 twice, with me throwing healer LB both times. First one was a bit embarrassing/impressive.. all of the DPS raised, just to be thrown off by the pushback.. whoops. I ended up getting all the comms since somehow we got through that without wiping (and amazingly, I kept steady around 50~75% mp, on sch).
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  3. #11343
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    Moonfish's Avatar
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    Autumn Stardust
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    I absolutely hate healers who carry Rescue. I don't like how other players are given the power to move my character, well intentioned or not.

    Case and point. Castrum Abania, second boss. Rescue-happy healer pulls me into a circle without checking if I already had the correct barrier, out of my ley lines.

    SE should take a page out of Blizzards book - if they won't outright remove this skill then add an item that nullifies healers trying to use Rescue on you. I don't need healers yanking me around.
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  4. #11344
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonfish View Post
    then add an item that nullifies healers trying to use Rescue on you.
    I'm gonna go further and say not only nullify it, but puts all their skills on a 10 year cooldown (across all classes and jobs, as well as preventing being able to gather, and they can't decorate or interact with ANYTHING), that persists through mechanics that reset all cooldowns as well as logging out/exiting the game/maintenance, across all characters on the entire SE account (including any new characters made), and automatically kicking them out of any duty they're currently in, and putting them on a 10 year DF penalty across the entire SE account including any new characters. I think then we'll see people stopping using Rescue. Because you risk not being able to play without rebuying the game for 10 years, and if you add it to the same SE account as the previous one, well, that cooldown is gonna make your new purchase useless.

    Plus, if you have a personal house, you best be ready to lose it and all the items with it. Sure, it's the most extreme response ever, but damn would it be effective. Why? Because then it stops things like my well intentioned rescue gone wrong from happening. Also, don't make it an item, make it a toggle in Character Customisation, that is ON by default, and is hidden through having to access a billion different codes before the option appears. Rescue then becomes character uselessness bait.

    Yes, I'm angry at myself right now because a friend and his FC wanted me to come with them to NidEx to farm, and we had to PF a couple of people, and I had to DPS (nothing else was available), and I just sucked at it. Should have just refused to have gone. I'm trying to come up with outrageously strict punishments for my bad decision. This idea if implemented would be a good punishment.

    EDIT: No, I'm not being serious about them implementing this idea, just needed to vent since today has just been one mishap after another for me.
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    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 08-06-2017 at 01:44 PM.
    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  5. #11345
    Player
    Moonfish's Avatar
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    Autumn Stardust
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    Malboro
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
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    My post was not a response to your Rescue mishaps, which is why I didn't quote you.

    Perhaps I could have worded it differently, too. I meant an item that prevents a healer from using Rescue on you, not nullify their character.
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  6. #11346
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    Zhamkyong's Avatar
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    Nizbalial Vegalia
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    That was a clear cut case of harassment. You should have kicked, and then reported either while you were waiting on the new tank, or after the duty if you got the new tank pretty quickly. People need to stand up to harassment, and yes, the GMs do ban for it. One of my friends that I met in-game actually got permanently banned for harassment.
    Yeah, I know. Simply it did not occur to me at the time neither my friend that we should take that action. I have both in the blacklist so it's still doable, I think.
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  7. #11347
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    Kahnom's Avatar
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    Arlizz Teirez
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    I never got Rescue by any healer since SB has started.
    The skill itself is just like that healer says "Do mechanics properly,will you ?" without saying a word on chat log.
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  8. #11348
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonfish View Post
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    Nah it's fine. I think I just used your post since while not a response to my rescue mishap, talked about something that I had happen to me today (except I was the one Rescuing), and it was just but one mishap out of many I had yesterday. I've slept since then so I'm not as irate at myself. The mishap that pushed me over the edge was that NidEx farm group I mentioned. Me, my friend and 4 of his FC mates, all set up a farm group in PF (since we needed 2 more DPS), they already have a tank + 2 healers so all that was left was DPS, so I went RDM. I'm not the greatest, and someone complains about the DPS because we aren't skipping enough (they weren't from the FC), and I say it's not my main (I'm a healer main), this person gets annoyed saying "Why are you in a farm group not on your main?", and I just went ballistic. Not in a reportable way mind you, I take care to direct all nastiness at myself, which AFAIK isn't reportable. I left after we wiped (I didn't cause the wipe btw).

    EDIT: Should probably add the FC members I had joined my friend with, were trying to say "No, you're doing fine", but I was too far tilted by the other comment. In hindsight, it was unhelpful thinking styles that I've talked about in other threads (that one from that user who made a bad suggestion and said she should be banned for it), so I really should practice what I preach. Eh, you live and learn I guess.

    EDIT2: Their comment was "DPS is low, should be this percent before reaching final phase" that tilted me. Not a nasty comment on their part at all. But seems I took it as a personal attack, which triggered my unhelpful thinking.
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    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 08-06-2017 at 05:38 PM.
    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  9. #11349
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    Beskar's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Beskar Silverfrost
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Well I've just had a really fun one with a tank. I was healing.

    Into the 67 dungeon. We get a warrior, samurai and black mage. I begin by eating some food for the exp and tank immediately moans about no protect. I say sorry as you get that weird delay thing. So the tank decides to go ham and pull the first two trash packs. The one with the 3 humans and all the little bugs.. Yeah they decided to go into deliverance for that..with no cooldowns.. We get through that barely and I'm already on half MP and then the tank pulls the next two. DPS get cleaved and tank does the same thing again promptly dies and all goes to a mess. We res.. Get a sarcastic reply of 'Small pulls it is then.' I reapply protect and the tank moans again about not having it even though they ran off. I ask if they are gonna stop moaning and they say No. I leave. Not putting up with snobby and bad tanks. Would rather take and eat the 30 minutes.
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  10. #11350
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    Heliantheae's Avatar
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    Character
    Ekhi Ysengrim
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    So a couple days again I got Gubal Library. It was leveling so I grabbed the mobs one at a time. Healer must've got bored or something because they left without a word before the first boss. Got another healer and it was fine.

    Got Gubal Library again yesterday. After the first mob, which is gated, I grabbed the next two mobs. Noticed I was dying, but I was thinking healers got this. I was still bottoming out, I popped my other CDs and was casting Clemency when I died. I typed in "Whoops" cause my bad. My friend typed "Healer to babbi" something silly not meant to be taken to heart. I've taken worse abuse while healing and shrugged it off. Well he responds with "Its my first time here and You rude butts can find another healer" and left. We were at a loss for words at what happened. I felt like a jerk. Here they are at the end of HW and this happened to them. But at the same time, they're going to need thicker skin if they want to heal.

    And I still wanted my cluster and XP so I grabbed a healer from me FC and finished the dungeon.
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