Don't Leve Them Behind! - Battlecraft Leves in Stormblood

[Ashett]

As someone who despised Battlecraft leveling (but not necessarily the quests itself), let me tell you about some of the issues I had with it...

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- I wanted to saved my allowances for my crafters.

- Other means of leveling up are better and/or more fun. Palace of the Dead floor 51-100 is the fastest way for dps to level, and playing the highest lvl dungeon available as a tank or healer (because their ques are nearly instant) gives those classes the fastest exp possible. Both of these methods are faster leveling than levemetes unless one has an overpowered friend 1-2 shoting everything for them.

- Doing the same quest over and over again!?! Are you "freaking" kidding me!?! I already completed the endgame relic for ARR and HW! How much more repetitive "stuff" do you want me to do??? Why should I have to run back and forth and suffer through 2 loading screens + travel time, when I can que for 1 loading screen and get the exp right then and there??

- Dutys let you socialise and meet new people. Levemetes don't. I didn't log onto an mmo with the intention of playing with myself.

- The gil incentive even to this day is still too low. When it comes to battles; you get more cash nabbing materia from duties and transmuting them hoping they come out a crafter or gatherer, or something else really high priced on said server. There are other methods for battle-only players to make gil; this is just an example - a basic one that triumphs levemetes due to not being restricted by allowances.

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I honestly don't mind that they're gone. DPS leveling is a pain for SB players. But that's what having friends, C Rank clan hunts, and fates are for.

[Elamys]

As someone who despised Battlecraft leveling (but not necessarily the quests itself), let me tell you about some of the issues I had with it...

While you personally may have not liked them, that's not really a valid reason for removing something from the game. More methods of gaining experience is always a good thing. They would have done better to make an attempt to improve the leves, as opposed to outright pulling them.

Now that you mention crafting leves in that same post, an interesting note is that now that my crafters and gatherers are all at 70, my leve allowances sit at 100, untouched. There's nothing for me to use them on.

[XIV_Cristiano]

While you personally may have not liked them, that's not really a valid reason for removing something from the game. More methods of gaining experience is always a good thing. They would have done better to make an attempt to improve the leves, as opposed to outright pulling them.

Now that you mention crafting leves in that same post, an interesting note is that now that my crafters and gatherers are all at 70, my leve allowances sit at 100, untouched. There's nothing for me to use them on.

There's always achievements related to levequests. Like do 100 unique tradecraft leves as Blacksmith or something. Also the honest Gilionaire. That's just optional though.1

[TWOxACROSS]

- I wanted to saved my allowances for my crafters.

Well, then...do that. That's the beauty of choice. You don't have to use them on battlecrafts if you don't want to. Just in the same way I chose not to use my allowances for crafting.

- Other means of leveling up are better and/or more fun. Palace of the Dead floor 51-100 is the fastest way for dps to level, and playing the highest lvl dungeon available as a tank or healer (because their ques are nearly instant) gives those classes the fastest exp possible. Both of these methods are faster leveling than levemetes unless one has an overpowered friend 1-2 shoting everything for them.

Of course all those options exist, but the point is that battlecraft levequests were one of those, and were great for solo or more intimate playtime, especially if you were pressed for time but wanted to get some experience in without having to commit to and be depended upon by other players.

- Doing the same quest over and over again!?! Are you "freaking" kidding me!?! I already completed the endgame relic for ARR and HW! How much more repetitive "stuff" do you want me to do??? Why should I have to run back and forth and suffer through 2 loading screens + travel time, when I can que for 1 loading screen and get the exp right then and there??

Well, considering the repetitiveness, it's sorta moot when you just talked about running the same ten floors of Palace of the Dead, or constantly rerunning old content. Obviously more variety would be welcome, but the lack of battlecraft leves in 4.0 is made even more disappointing with 4.0's inclusion of new mechanics like Duty Actions and dart shooting. Another point to be made is that if you're spamming the same levequests enough to be frustrated at the repetition, you probably had the time to play something more engaging like an actual dungeon; unless of course, you don't want to play with others at the moment, in which case you probably accept what you're getting into anyway.

- Dutys let you socialise and meet new people. Levemetes don't. I didn't log onto an mmo with the intention of playing with myself.

And that's nice for you, but some people like to have some time for themselves while playing sometimes. Additionally, as mentioned above, battlecraft leves are a great way to get experience for short bits of work, without concerning yourself with having to spend time queuing or playing with others if you might not have that kind of time to spare.

- The gil incentive even to this day is still too low. When it comes to battles; you get more cash nabbing materia from duties and transmuting them hoping they come out a crafter or gatherer, or something else really high priced on said server. There are other methods for battle-only players to make gil; this is just an example - a basic one that triumphs levemetes due to not being restricted by allowances.

Obviously it'd be nice if rewards were better, but when it's something that you can easily spam, they can't make them too incredible.

All in all, your thoughts don't really do a whole lot to dissuade from wanting battlecraft leves to return. I mean, you don't like them, for your obvious reasons, but those feelings are yours, and only serve to explain why you shy away from them.

I honestly don't mind that they're gone. DPS leveling is a pain for SB players. But that's what having friends, C Rank clan hunts, and fates are for.

I'm sorry, so DPS leveling is a pain, but they should just not have access to another option that doesn't require them to depend on lengthy queues? Hunts are awesome, but you can only do a stack of bills per day. FATEs are nice, but there aren't always enough people doing them, and many can be too much for a single person. Leves were a low-tier, repeatable option for getting experience, it shouldn't be removed.