My absence and return - thoughts on demolished houses

[Leknaat]

IIRC the case I gave was the instance that left a lot of people peeved because when pressed for an answer as to why things changed, the response was simply an insincere apology stating, "I'm sorry... that you all misunderstood me."

I think SE misjudged how 1) high demand housing (house flipping squatter douchebags was definitely not something that had come up in their planning) was 2) only realized AFTER the fact that their system did not have the resource to support the robust system they envisioned because I remember logging back INSIDE the FC house like the first 2 weeks or so when few plots were taken. Then they changed it to you logged in outside of the house....

[Krotoan]

so people do want everyone to have instanced apartment? those cost like 300k, even from playing a few days you can get that much. getting it demolished is no problem...

i really don't see why one couldn't just sell their house when they wanna quit and buy a new one when they play again. the net loss wouldn't be alot

Is housing very available on your server? Cause on mine it was all taken within minutes of the server being up. It's not the money everyone cares about, it's having the house.


I think the only solution that would be acceptable at the moment would be making a change to apartments that added gardening like a "go to greenhouse" when entering the apartments which spawned a little 8 plot instance for you to mess with.
Also maybe make some sort of "warehouse" or "Hangar" available to FC's as a level upgrade with options for crafting and airship deployment. (these ideas have been mentioned before , just as a disclaimer to someone who says I'm repeating things. )

More houses and wards would be nice.. but we need to think of something scaleable and cost effective.

[Valinis]

Seriously people stop defending SE and their absolutely archaic, garbage housing system. This is the reason they will never ever bother to fix the damn thing, because you all have the mindset of "oh well there's nothing they can do about it". Why are you flaming out another fellow player instead of getting angry at the developers? Didn't realize the consumer of today was happy to get bent over and milked for every penny they have.

There is no excuse for the auto-demolishing of houses barred behind a subscription. It's lazy. It's cheap. It's pathetic. The sooner you all realize this the sooner we can have a better housing system.

The lack of support for your fellow gamer makes me so disappointed.

[Dark-Saviour]

I think SE misjudged how 1) high demand housing (house flipping squatter douchebags was definitely not something that had come up in their planning) was 2) only realized AFTER the fact that their system did not have the resource to support the robust system they envisioned because I remember logging back INSIDE the FC house like the first 2 weeks or so when few plots were taken. Then they changed it to you logged in outside of the house....

I don't doubt they underestimated demand or lacked the proper architecture to do things properly. That's kind of their "thing".
That said, the lack of transparency about the specifics of player housing prior to the last minute and the sudden shift to "It's just FC housing without the FC" (especially considering housing availability was already a problem) really just felt like they abandoned a better idea because it was too much hassle before going into diversion/deflection mode.

2 problems:Outdoor furnishings is quite possibly a negligible problem though.

Another tangent, but I personally wouldn't call it negligible since the decorating facet of housing is a major part of its appeal to me (and something I wish they'd spend more time on [resizable furniture/partitions, having partitions adopt wall-patterns, etc.])
Aside from availability, it's why instanced housing has so much more potential to me; you could have a huge lot that supports a large number of decorations (pools, Gazebos, etc.) and possibly multiple buildings (that don't have to be accessed as a separate instance even!).
Exterior decoration can be super-fun too. :-(

[Sandpark]

This might be a dumb question lol.

Can't SE add a few servers specifically for houses and nothing else to alleviate shortages?

Would work just like Duty Finder cross server jumping.

On Midgardsormer I select housing teleport get whooshed off to Little House On The Prairie server.
When I exit housing it kicks me back to Midgardsormer.

[Ilan]

Personally, yes, I'd say that would be fair, as any system should have permanence as one of its core features.
If that system then has issues (as the current implementation does), then you need to rethink the bloody system.

In what world is it fair to favor a non paying customer over a paying one? Just because you "could" return and complain? We don't need to discuss that there are way to less houses, thats obvious.

[uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu]

Can't SE add a few servers specifically for houses and nothing else to alleviate shortages?
Would work just like Duty Finder cross server jumping.

omg noo, the housing areas are connected to maps beside the city.
it's quick route for Fates, hunts, etc. and it's basically instanced housing where no guarantee you will meet same neighbour?
Can you imagine queueing for housing when Shirogane is released? Will make Raubahn savage so easy.

[Dark-Saviour]

In what world is it fair to favor a non paying customer over a paying one? Just because you "could" return and complain? We don't need to discuss that there are way to less houses, thats obvious.

Player 1 bought a house. It should be there for them forever.
Player 2 has yet to buy a house. When/if he does, it should also be there for them forever.

If no houses are available, then player 2 should be free to complain about the lack of available houses, yes, but the solution to that complaint isn't to screw over player 1, it's to increase the availability of houses in general.

I personally hold conditional/temporary prizes to have no value.
If permanence is guaranteed, barring additional action by SE, player 1 has something of value, and player 2 has nothing.
If permanence is not guaranteed, however, and Player 2 takes over Player 1's house, neither player has anything of value.

[Skivvy]

Seriously people stop defending SE and their absolutely archaic, garbage housing system. This is the reason they will never ever bother to fix the damn thing, because you all have the mindset of "oh well there's nothing they can do about it". Why are you flaming out another fellow player instead of getting angry at the developers? Didn't realize the consumer of today was happy to get bent over and milked for every penny they have.

There is no excuse for the auto-demolishing of houses barred behind a subscription. It's lazy. It's cheap. It's pathetic. The sooner you all realize this the sooner we can have a better housing system.

The lack of support for your fellow gamer makes me so disappointed.

[Zeonsilt]

I think this topic is a good place to ask.

If i will not login for 1-3+ months, will i lose my apartment?
(I.e. does same rules apply to apartments or not?)