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  1. #11321
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by micropanther7 View Post
    Had my first run in Susano last night.... what a nightmare, one wipe and the insults start flying "this is the easiest fight in the game", "omg wtf noob!", of course I was anxious to start with, and I made the mistake of opening my mouth and sniped back Henceforth there was a constant commentary on my every move, it became a vicious circle, the more anxious I got my performance suffered, the more mistakes I made, the more abuse was hurled at me.... welp I think I'm done with healing
    Please don't let bads scare you off of healing! It can be quite rewarding. There will always be jerks, just like in the real world, but you don't have to listen to them...

    ... hell, you don't even have to heal them! /maniacallaughter
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  2. #11322
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Please don't let bads scare you off of healing! It can be quite rewarding. There will always be jerks, just like in the real world, but you don't have to listen to them...

    ... hell, you don't even have to heal them! /maniacallaughter
    Thank you for the kind words Heavensward dungeons/trials and first SB dungeon have been a blast so far, mechanics were easy for me to pick up (amazingly lol). I must admit I was tempted not to heal... but I did anyway lol, chin up and carry on!
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  3. #11323
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    Ceallach Ruarc
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    I recently had a run through Brayflox's Longstop with two black mages and a dark knight. I was the white mage. I noticed that the dark knight and one of the black mages had used the Tales of Adventurer: One [Job's] Journey I shortcuts.

    Now, I was nice at first, but I don't have a whole lot of patience for people who don't listen or falsely accuse me of anything. And if any of them do read this, I apologize if I was genuinely rude.

    However, it was easily one of the most disastrous runs I have ever seen, let alone be a part of.

    Continued due to the character limit...
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  4. #11324
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    The biggest problem was the dark knight. I asked him if he wanted some advice, and he said sure just before pulling the first boss. If you are okay with receiving advice, making the healer have to choose between healing and actually giving that advice is generally a bad idea. So we wiped, and I tried to explain enmity to him. He just made fun of me for it. Throughout the entire dungeon, he would spam Ultimatum and not get enmity back when things inevitably attacked me or the black mages. He also spammed the limit break throughout the entire dungeon.
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  5. #11325
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    And then there were the two black mages. The new one was silent the entire time, and frankly I have the most respect for him as a result. The one who hadn't used the shortcut, however, accused me of being rude and talking down to them as if I was perfect. I'd like to remind everyone that words make up a pretty small percentage of the whole of human communication, and bereft of the rest misunderstandings can and will happen. I expect this particular black mage was simply not interested in criticism or improving her own play. Instead, like the new black mage, she chose to use Blizzard II to get Umbral Ice up instead of Blizzard. Obviously it's better to get Umbral Ice and do damage at the same time than to get Umbral Ice and not do damage because nothing is near you. Blizzard II was never cast in range of any enemy ever.
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    Last edited by Ceallach; 08-05-2017 at 01:10 PM. Reason: Misspelled one word. I'm obviously not perfect.

  6. #11326
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    We finally got to the third boss somehow, and the black mage who accused me of being rude could not even be bothered to step into the arena. As a result, we had to attempt the fight with a dark knight who wouldn't listen, a single black mage and me. Needless to say it took forever, the black mage died and I ran out of MP twice.

    It was at this point I was thoroughly upset.

    Then came the time to deal with the final boss, and it took forever because the dark knight outright refused to move the dragon out of the poison pools. We wiped our second time there, and even after I explained how the fight was supposed to go, nobody listened.
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    I have the greatest respect for people who learn from their mistakes. Maybe the new black mage did. But I have no respect whatsoever for the other black mage nor that dark knight. The funny thing is, I can understand Square Enix's logic about these "jump potions," but this run is a shining example as to why that was probably a bad idea.

    I honestly haven't even wanted to play FINAL FANTASY XIV at all ever since. I have anyway (I am paying the subscription, after all), but I've been thoroughly depressed and unmotivated in regards to leveling any new jobs at all.

    And if you're new to this game and reading this post, I beg of you: please, please don't be like these people. Learn everything you can. If you think someone is being rude, set that aside and listen anyway. Every strategy is worth thinking about and/or trying out, and if it doesn't work, then you have even greater weapons than emotional indignation to use against whomever you thought was rude: logic and evidence.
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  8. #11328
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceallach View Post
    The biggest problem was the dark knight. I asked him if he wanted some advice, and he said sure just before pulling the first boss. If you are okay with receiving advice, making the healer have to choose between healing and actually giving that advice is generally a bad idea. So we wiped, and I tried to explain enmity to him. He just made fun of me for it. Throughout the entire dungeon, he would spam Ultimatum and not get enmity back when things inevitably attacked me or the black mages. He also spammed the limit break throughout the entire dungeon.
    Waaait...I met a tank that did something similar. It was a simple leveling dungeon but they would waste the LB everytime they had the change to. Also the Dragoon in our party kept pulling off of them like so easily.
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  9. #11329
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    Ceallach, you can edit your posts to get around the word limit And reposting MoroMurasaki's advice as well, think that applies to your situation! People who want to learn will listen, please don't let people discourage you from the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Please don't let bads scare you off of healing! It can be quite rewarding. There will always be jerks, just like in the real world, but you don't have to listen to them...

    ... hell, you don't even have to heal them! /maniacallaughter
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    Last edited by micropanther7; 08-06-2017 at 01:38 AM. Reason: still a typo >.>

  10. #11330
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    Quote Originally Posted by SicariusSeven View Post
    Waaait...I met a tank that did something similar. It was a simple leveling dungeon but they would waste the LB everytime they had the change to. Also the Dragoon in our party kept pulling off of them like so easily.
    Come to think of it... Is this a new DRK type thing. I was leveling a lowbie alt through ...uhm... I can't remember the... Hatalli? Ya. Anyway the worse tank I have DF'd with. Sure he could hold hate I guess. Be he stayed in bad and used the LB at every darn opportunity. I was a DPS, cause I'm afraid to heal DF things. Anyway our Healer had it against this guy after the second time she rezzed him from standing in bad. And that was after an ultimatum. (Standing in bad is bad and you will not get a heal... or something along those lines.) The DRK never altered his playstyle in the slightest.

    Anyway we did win. But after noting a few things in this thread... Is it really DRKs LBing and being bad in these runs?
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