Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[RyeMinx]

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(this is based on common consensus, but we don't know exact stat weights yet) DH and Crit are kinda like, pick one. That is now your second best stat, and the other is now your worst. As long as you can get high numbers of either, doesn't really matter what you pick. Det is 3rd, regardless of which you pick. So do you want 117 of your 3rd best stat and 82 of your best stat, or 117 of your second stat, and 82 of your worst stat. Seeing that we are melding SS to both, that doesnt really matter except the genji piece does lose a few points, but not much. Personally, I am aiming for the Genji piece, but without stat weights, it is a close call.

[Kaalia_Stormborn]

Personally, I am aiming for the Genji piece, but without stat weights, it is a close call.

I concur on the Genji piece; it's the clear cut choice based on current stat weight speculation.

[Karja]

Heya, what belt are you guys going for?

Augmented Lost Allagan Belt of Casting -- (117 DH / 82 Crit)
Genji Obi of Casting -- (117 Det / 82 SpellSpeed)

Spell Speed is still out preferred stat but is that extra 77 SS worth all that Determination? I.E., is it worth the difference between 117 DH vs 117 Det plus the 82 crit? I think imma go with the Allagan for now.

Comes down to what you want to aim for. If you go for a max SS build you can reach the 1917 ss tier with food with the belt.
I haven't seen a definitly BIS set for BLM yet, mostly because it seems like it's unclear how good SS really is.
1717 SS seems to be a good compromize but I wasn't able to create a gearset with was able to achieve 1717 without being way above 1717.

[SunnyHirose]

If you interpret the BLM rotation naïvely as pure GCDs (which has never been too far from more accurate models in the past, think of it as a first-order approximation), DH: .147~.151, DET: .144~.148, CH: .124~.126, SS: .167.

- Modeling oGCDs would take the SS weight down a bit, since those take constant-ish time, but are infrequent.
- Latency and that bit of delay between casts that I don't know what that is is a whole different kettle of fish; I haven't been modeling that, and to my knowledge few people if any have, but maybe I should start.
- Tiering makes weighting more of a "convenient falsehood". They can give you some general directions, but you can't really set your sidegrades towards a "true" BiS based on them.
- The best set I found (well, only searching by hand, not by computer and yes, it's the 1917 SS) does 0.68% more damage under this theory--albeit with no consideration for the distribution of cast times--than the set with all the opposite picks. It's never really been that important to get "true" BiS, but sometimes it helps to see how much you stand (not) to lose.

[jba252]

how much SS is enough? I see some with around the 1300ish range with 99% percentile while I also see others nearing 2k

[VitalSuit]

how much SS is enough? I see some with around the 1300ish range with 99% percentile while I also see others nearing 2k

I think it's personal preference tbh but 1700 feels good to me.

[prophecy4seen]

Quick question folks.. Obviously we stacking SS>DH>DET nowdays.. But how much crit should you expect to have once its done? Im hearing crit is not worth it unless you can reach a certain amount.. which im fine with, but how much should one aim for as a minimum

[Waliel]

Quick question folks.. Obviously we stacking SS>DH>DET nowdays.. But how much crit should you expect to have once its done? Im hearing crit is not worth it unless you can reach a certain amount.. which im fine with, but how much should one aim for as a minimum

There's no such thing as "minimum" crit for a job that gets nothing from crits. You'll naturally get some from gear and that's fine.

[Pendas]

So I'm working on Melds and want to know the consensus on going over the Materia cap.

Right now I want to Socket 2 SS VI in my Coat, but it will put me over the cap by 5 (75 total).

Is it worth it to overcap by just a little or should I ALWAYS go for a secondary (Direct Hit) or third (Deterence) stat to avoid overcapping, no matter the number?

[Shiroe]

i only know that in 3.5, eventhough ss was cleary better than crit, I had the best dps when the ration of ss and crit was close to 1:1.., and not 2:1/ss:crit

meaning, this time too, if the ss feels good, try to keep the other off- stats evened out a bit, dont let one stat fully drop out too over max another (like I just did in 4.05, went full ss and dhit, than det.., making my crtit drop to 460, but with ss and dhit ca. 2000 and det 1030.., might be better if atleast bring det and crit closer to each maybe 800-750)