A detailed Reaction to Warrior in SB

[MauvaisOeil]

I would have loved a dump costing 10 or 30 Beast gauge.

Having only onslaught to manage beast gauge means the most I can do is pushing one BB or SE combo away my 100 BG. But if berserk/IR are slightly more than 3 GCD away, I end up wasting ressources like a moron .

[Tegernako]

Does anyone else have an issue with Infuriate not being able to be activated even while in battle or is it just me?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I have mixed feelings about WAR. On the one hand, the jobs burst phase is amazing and I love pulling off all that stuff, so the lack of cost on IR/UC is really nice! On the other... the lack of stance swap cost means I'm basically a demigod again and I don't really have to think about what I'm doing or plan ahead. It's awesome to see 20k+ FC crits back to back during IR, but outside the burst I struggle to not autopilot.

[Felorr]

Does anyone else have an issue with Infuriate not being able to be activated even while in battle or is it just me?

You need to be registered on some type of aggro table to be considered in combat. The reason your infuriate is unavailable is because you haven't generated enough aggro to even be on the aggro table, like if there are 100+ people attacking a hunt. Do a BB combo and you should be ok.

You'll also notice this when you pull a boss or something, depending on how quickly the aggro table refreshes, you sometimes have to mash infuriate right after engaging.

[ovIm]

I have mixed feelings about WAR. On the one hand, the jobs burst phase is amazing and I love pulling off all that stuff, so the lack of cost on IR/UC is really nice! On the other... the lack of stance swap cost means I'm basically a demigod again and I don't really have to think about what I'm doing or plan ahead. It's awesome to see 20k+ FC crits back to back during IR, but outside the burst I struggle to not autopilot.

The thing is, in terms of game design, the BG cost for swapping made absolutely no sense and had to go.

As opposed to DRK and PLD, the BG is required for 6 (formerly 8) skills, whereas 4 of those are weapon skills. It was needlessly punishing and unnecessarily raised the skill ceiling in a patch where SqEx wanted to simplify things. And to top it off, well planned and proper use of IR and the BG did not reward you with more DPS or better mitigation for your team, it just put you on par with what the other 2 tanks were doing for DPS, something that is still the case.

I dont see the removal of the BG cost as a bad thing, and it did not make WAR "overpowered".

[Shurrikhan]

I would have loved a dump costing 10 or 30 Beast gauge.

Having only onslaught to manage beast gauge means the most I can do is pushing one BB or SE combo away my 100 BG. But if berserk/IR are slightly more than 3 GCD away, I end up wasting ressources like a moron .

One idea I've heard is to add 5 BG to Heavy Swing, Tomahawk, and Overpower, increase the Infuriate trait to 6s each from 5s or have it likewise affect RI/UC to boost the 50-BG spenders' value, and then decrease the BG cost of Onslaught to 15 and its potency to 80 or 90 (a 6.67 increase to efficiency, making it on par with current FC when including the trait effects, to a 20% increase to efficiency, about on par with FC given the above Infuriate effects). Then you could trim at 15, 20, 30, or 35, instead of solely multiples of 20 (granted, Upheaval will already be used basically on CD, so it's not exactly adding freedom). I'd have to see how that affects windows though. That's an additional .694 BG/s at a 2.4 GCD or 1.66 BG/GCD, and would accelerate IR-Zerk by 1-2 GCDs. The trait change would certainly raise DPS potential by a fair bit, but would also adjust windows in a potentially clunky window. Will be seeing how it'd all fit once servers are back up.

I have mixed feelings about WAR. On the one hand, the jobs burst phase is amazing and I love pulling off all that stuff, so the lack of cost on IR/UC is really nice! It's awesome to see 20k+ FC crits back to back during IR, but outside the burst I struggle to not autopilot.

This is pretty well how it feels for me, too. I feel like I might be a little more involved if I had to count Onslaughts or whatnot between bursts, or had more reason to swap in (e.g. a decoupled Unchained), but it feels like the class really goes to sleep once the Inner Release does.

[Tegernako]

You need to be registered on some type of aggro table to be considered in combat. The reason your infuriate is unavailable is because you haven't generated enough aggro to even be on the aggro table, like if there are 100+ people attacking a hunt. Do a BB combo and you should be ok.

You'll also notice this when you pull a boss or something, depending on how quickly the aggro table refreshes, you sometimes have to mash infuriate right after engaging.

this is the dumbest thing I've read all day. SE really did that? Wow lol

But tbf, I have gone an entire hunt doing aggro combos and still not seen it activate. Even when I switch stances or go to a different monster it still won't activate. I have to turn stances of completely to get it to work.

[FallenWings]

this is the dumbest thing I've read all day. SE really did that? Wow lol

But tbf, I have gone an entire hunt doing aggro combos and still not seen it activate. Even when I switch stances or go to a different monster it still won't activate. I have to turn stances of completely to get it to work.

I'd imagine the 30+ other White Mages spamming Medica 2 and Cure 3 are pushing everyone off the aggro table by lightyears. :L

[Tegernako]

I'd imagine the 30+ other White Mages spamming Medica 2 and Cure 3 are pushing everyone off the aggro table by lightyears. :L

I def see the aggro hit yellow or orange. I basically spam aggro combos because aggro in hunts gets you a lot of credit. There are times when I've gotten the MT role and it still hasn't let me activate it.

Next time it happens I'll take a video and file a bug report.

[Gojin]

Theres nothing good about Warrior at all, there I said it fight me irl.