My absence and return - thoughts on demolished houses

[Geryth]

I'm sorry but that was your own fault. You said you knew it was going to happen but refused to log in to prove some point.

Yes, I did. The most powerful point I can make in my relationship to SE - my wallet.

You can blame that on me all you want but it was SE's decision to put terrible limits on housing and SE's decision to punish players for taking breaks and SE who deleted my stuff.

[RichardButte]

I too dislike the housing setup, and this feels like yet another failing of SE's woefully-inadequate database, the same database that's preventing things like glamour logs and better storage solutions (like tackle boxes for fishers) from existing.

What I don't understand is that if you created a character during VANILLA WoW over 10 years ago but haven't played since, you can STILL go reactivate your account this very moment and that character and everything they had will still be exactly where it was (not as complex as housing, but still).

I don't understand how SE's databases are so, for lack of a better term, feeble. At the very least, they could save a version of your house that you could then opt to put back later. That's basically what they're doing for the current moving feature, after all.

And yeah, I don't understand why they didn't just be smart and go with instanced housing, like FFXI and Wildstar did. Wildstar allowed you to open your house to whoever, or keep it locked and only available to friends and whatnot.

Did we really need actual residential "districts" in XIV and all of the numerous downsides that came with it?

Among that list of downsides, I'm saving up for a mansion so I can use it as a "studio" in which to record machinima, except I have no idea if it's even going to be possible to get one because of the way housing works.

Would I mind having an instanced mansion that no one else can see? Not one friggin' bit, just as I'm sure most homeless players would rather have an actual house that no one can see instead of being relegated to a one room apartment.

It feels like there's some annoying accountant behind it, saying things like, "NO! WE HAVE TO SAVE MONEY ON DATABASE SERVERS!", completely oblivious to just how many problems a poor backend server setup is going to cause an MMO, and we see this manifesting itself in just how much of an issue storage is becoming and how highly desired features like glamour logs are being waved off.

[Nerfworthy]

I'm fine with losing the house itself. It seems more than reasonable considering if you're not subbing..you don't need a house.

HOWEVER, the items INSIDE the house also being demolished is what really ruffles my feathers. I have a similar story to OP, where I quit 2 years ago then recently came back, only to find out my limited edition cherry blossom trees had been demolished forever along with my house. Those things are worth easily 10 mil apiece on my server now. I'm still kinda salty over that, but I'm obviously still here because I enjoy the game. I just think some things need to be changed here.

[JumperX]

To OP, everybody here understand it but are gappy that you decided that you let lf your house if you are not gonna play anymore. They want to see the positive side aince your departing means someone else get the house.

I think SE made thos house system not just cuz of a poor decision, but it is based in their cultute. We need to remember this is a Japanese company not an America company. The game might be different if our server were sponsored by someone in from US (NA data center) or EU (EU data center)

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Yes, I did. The most powerful point I can make in my relationship to SE - my wallet.

That's the thing with protests you have to accept the consequences.

[Geryth]

That's the thing with protests you have to accept the consequences.

And I absolutely have. My consequence is that I lost my house and all my furnishings. SE's consequence for deleting that was losing my money. I'm just letting them know that while I have posting privileges. When players lose their stuff, especially something as big, expensive, and sentimental as housing, they aren't likely to come back. Just thought SE should know.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

And I absolutely have. My consequence is that I lost my house and all my furnishings. SE's consequence for deleting that was losing my money. I'm just letting them know that while I have posting privileges. When players lose their stuff, especially something as big, expensive, and sentimental as housing, they aren't likely to come back. Just thought SE should know.

Which is not true. Currently have a little lala being an ass with a friend cause they have their house now. Your also here on the game debating to come back.

You never know that person who got your house might have been obsessed with housing as much as you. So instead of quitting they stayed on the game finally getting a house.

[Naunet]

That is the nature of this game unfortunately. I mean did you see what happened on that one server where two people bought an ENTIRE freaking WARD for themselves. An entire WARD.

They bought those houses because the server was very tiny and no one else was using them...

@OP: I agree completely that the demolition timer is utter BS. The entire housing (and glamour) system is a hideous blight on an otherwise relatively polished game. SE has shown zero interest in changing it, though...

Try not to pay your bills IRL for a while we'll see if you still own a house

This is a video game, not real life. We don't need onerous, money-grabbing rules binding us to video games.

Imagine an entire ward full of houses from people who left the game 1+ year ago; it would be desertic and sad for the people who are still playing.

I NEVER see anyone in our ward. Ever. It may as well be deserted already. We need instanced housing, pronto.

I think SE made thos house system not just cuz of a poor decision, but it is based in their cultute. We need to remember this is a Japanese company not an America company. The game might be different if our server were sponsored by someone in from US (NA data center) or EU (EU data center)

Japanese players hate the demo timer, too. Stop trying to pin everything on some mystical Japanese culture. Bad design decisions are bad design decisions, period.

[Zarabeth]

And I absolutely have. My consequence is that I lost my house and all my furnishings. SE's consequence for deleting that was losing my money. I'm just letting them know that while I have posting privileges. When players lose their stuff, especially something as big, expensive, and sentimental as housing, they aren't likely to come back. Just thought SE should know.

Se doesn't care at all about your house or your thread. They have paying customers to worry about. Besides, weren't you leaving?

[worldofneil]

HOWEVER, the items INSIDE the house also being demolished is what really ruffles my feathers. I have a similar story to OP, where I quit 2 years ago then recently came back, only to find out my limited edition cherry blossom trees had been demolished forever along with my house.

Sorry about your items, but even after their email warnings and the actual demolition taking place, you still had another 35 days to login and collect 80% of the purchase price as well as most of the items (which would have included the cherry trees).

I lost my house and all my furnishings. SE's consequence for deleting that was losing my money

I known it's a bit finicky, but you didn't lose them... you've said repeatedly that you decided to give up the house. That's not loss, that's you choosing to relinquish. You had the ability to stop that and you knowingly decided not to.

It's also not really much of a consequence to SE as you'd already decided that you weren't going to renew your sub before they even demolished it! Your actions led onto their actions.

And as mentioned above there was also that window where you could have retrieved the money/items instead of wiping them out completely.

they aren't likely to come back

Free 7-day login or not... you came back :P Welcome back!