Why is StormBlood full of dps that never aoe?

[Aomine1992]

Aoe is only bad for like DRG and MCH every other class should be using aoe although as a nin I will not use death blossom (just the toad and fire) that ish does no dmg lol but I firmly believe in aoes unless you are those two classes because you will kill vastly slower lol...BLM aoe isn't that great till like 58ish until then you have a very weak fire 2, thunder IV if it procs and flare if you feeling adventurous haha

[Yorumi]

Wow some of the excuses. No wonder SE has to continually dumb this game down. TP cost? Burn to 200 tp and go single target. If everyone is AOEing you should be seeing mobs drop so the single target rotation is becoming more optimal anyway. Every melee should be carrying goad but people are dumb, and brds/mch should have tp regen. What exactly are you saving you tp for anyway? Should have invigorate anyway and that comes off cooldown about every other pack.

Damage? It's a dps gain on 3 or more targets for pretty much any class.

I just don't get it, it doesn't take that much thought to figure out aoes.

[gweyowmi]

I think SMN is still good with AOE, but our AOE depends on if bane is up or not, I notice mobs die a lot faster when I have bane available. If you are struggling to clear something perhaps work with your group on them saving AOE spells when you are in a trash heavy section so maybe their DPS isnt as high as it could be for certain fights but you wont have as many in between longer mob pulls over all.

Like I know if i see that we have a string of mobs I wont spam my aether n go into dreadwyrm right away, I will save my aether to bane again on next mob, bc if you are moving fast then it cant always come off CD fast enough.

But I am a new player and not 70 yet so just my 2 cents.

EDIT~
And while yes I realize I can individually put my DoTs on the other peices of trash, its not nearly as fast as just hitting bane then using Ruin for direct damage to make them die faster.

[Waliel]

Also SE said they want us to stop doing big pulls, ever notice how the mobs hit alot harder now?

Obviously not hard enough, because double pulls even in leveling dungeons are still very viable, and there's almost always enough time to throw some damage as a healer as well. Or maybe WHM is just that OP for normal dungeons.

[Okamimaru]

If only casters could use goad... or benefit from it.... now that I've started carrying goad I'm always paired with a caster...

[Aethaeryn]

If only casters could use goad... or benefit from it.... now that I've started carrying goad I'm always paired with a caster...

Paladins and warriors need goad occasionally too, and you can always swap to something else if they aren't using their tp at all. Can even make macros for different cross-role actions.

[Okamimaru]

Paladins and warriors need goad occasionally too, and you can always swap to something else if they aren't using their tp at all. Can even make macros for different cross-role actions.

This doesn't address the issues with melee tp and aoes... tanks pulling door to door makes aoes just eat up tp with minimal damage to the mobs... tanks need to pull smaller to make aoes effective enough to justify the tp usage...

[Kitfox]

This doesn't address the issues with melee tp and aoes... tanks pulling door to door makes aoes just eat up tp with minimal damage to the mobs... tanks need to pull smaller to make aoes effective enough to justify the tp usage...

What? That doesn't make any sense. Your AoEs do more damage the more mobs there are, and the more mobs you kill at the same time, the more efficient it is.

[Accelerating]

This doesn't address the issues with melee tp and aoes... tanks pulling door to door makes aoes just eat up tp with minimal damage to the mobs... tanks need to pull smaller to make aoes effective enough to justify the tp usage...

Hottest take in the thread right here folks.

[Greedalox]

This doesn't address the issues with melee tp and aoes... tanks pulling door to door makes aoes just eat up tp with minimal damage to the mobs... tanks need to pull smaller to make aoes effective enough to justify the tp usage...

I find this is only true if my partner DPS in the dungeon is really having trouble grasping AoE rotations as a TP user. I've had many groups where competent DPS can destroy door to door packs without ever even using invigorate. The decaying damage on packs is capped, so the different between 5 or more monsters is moot. There's never really a reason to go OOT unless your partner has the mindset of single targetting large pulls- which case it's up to your tank to make a judgement call on how to proceed with the pulls at that point.