Moonfire Faire

[Remus]

Apparently tons of people asked for that. So yeah, even if you did not, enough other people will be happy abou their "laziness".

I didn't say people never asked for it. That still doesn't change the fact it's lazy using a levelling set for an event. They could have easily just made the levelling one dyeable.

[Naunet]

I didn't say people never asked for it. That still doesn't change the fact it's lazy using a levelling set for an event. They could have easily just made the levelling one dyeable.

This x10000000000.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I didn't say people never asked for it. That still doesn't change the fact it's lazy using a levelling set for an event. They could have easily just made the levelling one dyeable.

Considering no dungeon gear has ever been dyeable, I imagine they'd have to make a whole new version anyway. And really, does it matter? I don't see it as lazy so much as they are focusing on other things and decided this was a good solution since many wanted dyeable versions anyway. Keep in mind, they aren't taking any time off with Stormblood whereas we waited nearly five months for 3.1. Small events like Moonfaire just aren't going to be a priority.

[ErryK]

Considering no dungeon gear has ever been dyeable.

Well, besides Sirensong, but that was also dyeable crafted 3.4 gear anyways, just switched into different roles.

I don't really mind myself, I like the Shisui sets, it stops me from having to farm 7/8 gearsets just for glamour and having to fit a weapon to keep it all color coordinated, when I can just dye it myself.

To be perfectly honest, I see more use out of this than say, The Rising minions? (though Wind-Up Gosetsu will be my minion of choice when crafting/idling).

Could be because they just got here recently and thus have literally no access to most of the stuff you got since last Moonfire because you can't even get stuff in the store - so finding out that the sole option is an outfit they don't want to bunches of other options they MIGHT want but can no longer get even though those options literally exist in game already and code already is kinda ehh feeling?

The poses are on the Mog Station though...

Learn some self-respect.

This honestly doesn't make sense whatsoever.

You're telling people to learn self-respect when you're promoting/condoning backlash to a company? Just move on with your life or wait until next year. Where was this when they decided to take their two month extra off developing content back during the break between 3.0 and 3.1? Did you also state then that this is unacceptable and we have to learn "self-respect" to get our moneys worth? Get our sub back for those two months that lacked content? Vote with your wallet, because at least then you'll have the dignity of not looking like a child crying that they didn't get their lolly... honestly...

[Walfan]

This honestly doesn't make sense whatsoever.

You're telling people to learn self-respect when you're promoting/condoning backlash to a company? Just move on with your life or wait until next year. Where was this when they decided to take their two month extra off developing content back during the break between 3.0 and 3.1? Did you also state then that this is unacceptable and we have to learn "self-respect" to get our moneys worth? Get our sub back for those two months that lacked content? Vote with your wallet, because at least then you'll have the dignity of not looking like a child crying that they didn't get their lolly... honestly...

I repeat, you're a customer and this game is a product. SE isn't your mom or your boss, they're not granting you a privilege.
Of course you should complain when something displeases you, otherwise the company will assume they're doing good (or that they can get away with it). Criticism is important.
This event overall isn't that significant but it's part of a bigger problem lately. SB launched with less skins than usual, the new crafted gear is a dyable version of WoD gear instead of a new skin, and worst of all they released a cash shop exclusive set and exclusives emotes a few months ago (something that's downright disrespectful for a game with a subscription). Do you still not see the issue ? What does this say about the future ?

I'll ignore the blatant ad hominem for the sake of discussion.

[ErryK]

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Don't play a product you don't like. It's self-defeating. That's all I've got to say.

[Alleo]

Don't play a product you don't like. It's self-defeating. That's all I've got to say.

Or instead of wanting people to stop playing something that they still like in some aspects, maybe accept that criticism is a important part in the company-customer relationship? I mean if everyone just stops because they find something bad instead of just complaining about it..well you might not be able to play FF14 anymore since they need people to continue the game. Also criticism is a good way for them to improve thus making the game better for everyone. Its way better than just seeing the numbers of sub dropping without them knowing why.

Sometimes I do get the feeling like some take criticism toward SE as a personal attack..

And they've said Stormblood was even more daunting due to the amount of changes being made, yet they wanted to push through and maintain their schedule. Basically, they have a similar workload but aren't taking a break. Thus, less important things won't be a major priority. That's... not really surprising.

We got less content in SB then in HW (no new race, only two jobs, same manner in which they will release content, lots of recycled gear in dungeons and more) so if this would be way more taxing, then it would be quite concerning. Anyway like someone has pointed out, instead of giving us that one item as a cash shop only item, they could have used this as unique glamour item. Yet they decided to put it into the cash shop again while the event itself only has a reworked gear set. I just hope that at least the quest itself would be more than the gold saucer event one.

[SokiYagami]

Or instead of wanting people to stop playing something that they still like in some aspects, maybe accept that criticism is a important part in the company-customer relationship? I mean if everyone just stops because they find something bad instead of just complaining about it..well you might not be able to play FF14 anymore since they need people to continue the game. Also criticism is a good way for them to improve thus making the game better for everyone. Its way better than just seeing the numbers of sub dropping without them knowing why.

Sometimes I do get the feeling like some take criticism toward SE as a personal attack..



We got less content in SB then in HW (no new race, only two jobs, same manner in which they will release content, lots of recycled gear in dungeons and more) so if this would be way more taxing, then it would be quite concerning. Anyway like someone has pointed out, instead of giving us that one item as a cash shop only item, they could have used this as unique glamour item. Yet they decided to put it into the cash shop again while the event itself only has a reworked gear set. I just hope that at least the quest itself would be more than the gold saucer event one.

While I agree with the part where SE (and some players) should accept criticism, but to be fair, there's quite a bit of work going into creating the new skills and re-balancing of class/pvp in SB too. Whether those effort pay off is another topic though. At the end of the day, the seasonal events usually alternate between "good" and "bad" rewards. If you find this one "bad", just hope the next one is better I guess?

On a side note, was there ever any seasonal event that received so much backslash before it even launch? (Well there's the youkai event but that's a cross-over event instead.)

[ErryK]

Or instead of wanting people to stop playing something that they still like in some aspects, maybe accept that criticism is a important part in the company-customer relationship? I mean if everyone just stops because they find something bad instead of just complaining about it..well you might not be able to play FF14 anymore since they need people to continue the game. Also criticism is a good way for them to improve thus making the game better for everyone. Its way better than just seeing the numbers of sub dropping without them knowing why.

Sometimes I do get the feeling like some take criticism toward SE as a personal attack..

I'm not saying you can't, but just calling someone greedy and expecting things to be fixed isn't criticism, it's just being a child.

Nice strawman. You can like a game and still criticize it. It's doubly important to do so in a constantly evolving game like this one, a MMO which represents years of investment for most active players.
It's not black and white. If you love a game and plan to play it for the years to come, you want it to fix its shortcomings.

You can, you absolutely can. I never said you couldn't, but the way this thing has gone down for you is as if it's the end of the world. Yes, you'd want them to fix the shortcomings, but I hardly believe an outfit is something to make a fuss about, yet here people are talking about how vanity is the end all be all when it comes to XIV.

Again, this event is such a big issue because of the Fuga set. There is no "taking a break" or "focusing on more important things", they had enough ressources to do a full set and they chose to release it on the mog station, and now we have recycled gear for an event. It's greedy and you shouldn't let them get away with it or it will become the norm, unless you want a WoW situation where all the best looking mounts are on the cash shop ?

Mog Station is run by a separate team from what they told us. But the way I see it, it isn't worth the trouble to change the current rewards, but fair enough, if you're worried next year's rewards, all the power to you. I don't personally care because I'm still having fun playing the game.

I also would like to remind everyone that event rewards are not locked to expansions, people who are playing 2.0 will get these rewards as well, people who are playing 3.0 will get these rewards as well.

[alimdia]

Sometimes I do get the feeling like some take criticism toward SE as a personal attack..

Nailed it. It's why I prefer to discuss on Reddit, while there are as many fans as here, most people don't go white knight mode when they see the company doing something wrong.