Is there any reason to play BLM over RDM now days?

[Thorbot]

Also, balancing for the top makes much more sense than the other way around. For one, there's a trickle effect. And secondly...why would you balance for people who barely understand how to play their class, let alone game balance?

[Remedi]

It's not about SMN damage, as the dps is fine. It's the fact that most SMN mains just don't find it fun, as SE hasn't figured out what they want it to do/be. DoT class? Not when you only have 2 DoTs. Pet Class? Hard to justify when the pet AI is so poor (ie unresponsive) and they trimmed the only pet heal away. Bye Sustain!

TLR: It's not about SMNs damage that has people upset. It's SMNs lack of any fluidity or identity.

It's SE faults? I think most Summoners players don't know what they want imho

edit: don't want to start a flame war just saying that most of the times you see SMNs players having conflicted visions on how the class should play

[PrismaticDaybreak]

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Enough is enough man, we get it, you don't like RDM so you'll come up with whatever excuse you can to say they're OP. Just because you can play the victim doesn't mean you're right. The evidence is all there, RDM does not put up as much damage as BLM and loses a stark amount of relevance after fight mechanics become common knowledge. And stop arguing about Embolden, it's barely a .75% rDPS increase in a standard comp, and realistically is closer to .5%. And you don't balance off of casual players since usually they don't get invested enough to optimize for normal content, which is fine since you don't need to. And no, we can't raise "better" than healers, only more often, and the more often we do it, the more we get shafted in the DPS department.

[RuneSevalle]

And no, we can't raise "better" than healers, only more often, and the more often we do it, the more we get shafted in the DPS department.

More often and faster IS better than healers. Otherwise, RDM is mostly fine. I doubt they even really need number adjustments, it's just that rez safety buffer has the other casters feeling shafted. Doesn't stop us stubborn BLMs though.

[Thorbot]

More often and faster IS better than healers. Otherwise, RDM is mostly fine. I doubt they even really need number adjustments, it's just that rez safety buffer has the other casters feeling shafted. Doesn't stop us stubborn BLMs though.

It's not that good. You're already in dire waters if people are dying that much and you need RDM's rezes.

[PrismaticDaybreak]

More often and faster IS better than healers. Otherwise, RDM is mostly fine. I doubt they even really need number adjustments, it's just that rez safety buffer has the other casters feeling shafted. Doesn't stop us stubborn BLMs though.

Yeah sure, let's give everyone the rez safety, you'll enjoy being the safety buffer as BLM I guarantee it. You want to use Fire IV? Nope too bad, get to rezzing. What about Foul? Doesn't matter get to rezzing. If you like BLM don't ask for that rez safety and don't ask for nerfs to RDMs, you benefit from it just as much as anyone else. Your argument is boiling down to "If nobody else can have it they shouldn't get it either."

[Dualgunner]

Yeah sure, let's give everyone the rez safety, you'll enjoy being the safety buffer as BLM I guarantee it. You want to use Fire IV? Nope too bad, get to rezzing. What about Foul? Doesn't matter get to rezzing. If you like BLM don't ask for that rez safety and don't ask for nerfs to RDMs, you benefit from it just as much as anyone else. Your argument is boiling down to "If nobody else can have it they shouldn't get it either."

To say nothing of how much people lose their feces when someone dies mid melee combo. You can wait till I finish my verfinisher or you can stay down.

[PrismaticDaybreak]

To say nothing of how much people lose their feces when someone dies mid melee combo. You can wait till I finish my verfinisher or you can stay down.

Honestly i'm starting to approach it the same way as I do when healing, "Oh you stood in something? Looks like you get to sit on the floor and think about what you did."

[Dualgunner]

Honestly i'm starting to approach it the same way as I do when healing, "Oh you stood in something? Looks like you get to sit on the floor and think about what you did."

I'm getting to the same point. My patience really only gets tested when they whine and I'm mid melee combo. That's not just one spell of dps at that point that's basically my whole burst.

[RuneSevalle]

Yeah sure, let's give everyone the rez safety, you'll enjoy being the safety buffer as BLM I guarantee it. You want to use Fire IV? Nope too bad, get to rezzing. What about Foul? Doesn't matter get to rezzing. If you like BLM don't ask for that rez safety and don't ask for nerfs to RDMs, you benefit from it just as much as anyone else. Your argument is boiling down to "If nobody else can have it they shouldn't get it either."

Nowhere did I say BLM should have rez. At all. FFS, I didn't even have an argument. I only took issue with you denying that Verraise is better than the healers. Lightspeed is the only comparable method to come close to RDM in that sense.
Since you bring it up though, RDM is objectively the least impacted by having to throw out a rez, assuming you're not stopping mid-melee to do so. It's a well-designed job. Possibly far better designed than the other two, one of which needs a massive overhaul, and one which needs a couple small tweaks. Hence, your example is ridiculous.