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  1. #11
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    Takamorisan's Avatar
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    Takamori Maruyama
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Either use vengeance or rampart and you should be good.
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  2. #12
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    Rawrz's Avatar
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    In v3s our pld keeps trying to Sheltron critical hit [without awareness] and wonders why he dies when a melee forgets to feint. Hint: Crit>Block priority.

    #gladimnotahealeranymore
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  3. #13
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    DacienSanderon's Avatar
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    Dacien Sanderon
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    Famfrit
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    In v3s our pld keeps trying to Sheltron critical hit [without awareness] and wonders why he dies when a melee forgets to feint. Hint: Crit>Block priority.

    #gladimnotahealeranymore
    So you just sat there and didn't explain why?

    #gladidontraidwithelitistsnobs
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  4. #14
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    I don't use Defiance for twinbolt, cooldowns are enough.
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  5. #15
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    Dizzy Dash
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanthalas View Post
    ive been practicing savage and I often (not always) die to twin bolt. I switch to defiance and if its ready activate vengeance for the hit. often defiance is enough but not always. id like to down savage 1 before the reset on Tuesday and cant improve my gear before then other than melding. I cant afford penta-melded accessories. ive read the forums as I'm thinking melding tenacity might give me the extra little bit I need. but theres a lot of argument over it and I really confused. the most successful group I had hit enrage at 11%. as a war the damage I do isn't substantial and I cant see direct hit making up on that lost 11%.

    please advise!

    as I said before my biggest problem is dying once a fight usually to twinbolt
    There is no amount of any stat you can meld in this game that would give uou any noticable help with a buster like that. Its a cd issue. You just need to re plan your cds.
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  6. #16
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    Lyrai_Celestine's Avatar
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    Lyrai Celestine
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanthalas View Post
    as I said before my biggest problem is dying once a fight usually to twinbolt
    "Tanks should use cooldowns as necessary". MTQ said on her guides, whenever it highlights a tankbuster.
    It's for a good reason. You need that Rampart / Vengeance / Thrill of Battle / Reprisal, any mitigation skill that gives you a better chance to survive the hit, while also have one in reserve for the next buster. This is called CD management, and it is important in Savage raids and you'll find more of these as you go.
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  7. #17
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DacienSanderon View Post
    So you just sat there and didn't explain why?

    #gladidontraidwithelitistsnobs
    Oh you mean like the time I did in a5s when he did the same thing for the shanti add and I was the healer? Or you know like the times Ive asked when he plans to use hallowed or Sentinel or bulwark during the fight[answer:idk, at some point = never]? I'll stick to just addling. That's about as much as i can help. Poor whm always carries the tbs with DB at this point.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 07-31-2017 at 03:57 PM.

  8. #18
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    Tanthalas's Avatar
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    Tanth Alas
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Carpenter Lv 70
    thanks for the replies. I don't know why but I didn't even have rampart set as one of my skills and I assumed (wrongly I know) that reprisal would be as useful as shake it off. which has Never shaken anything off. ive always used thrill of battle as a way to regain hp instead of mitigation but look forward to trying it on my next practice run. i'll love it if I can survive in deliverance, I cant remember if I had used vengeance or not in that instant I just know that the party told me to switch to defiance the first time I got downed by it in deliverance.
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  9. #19
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    vigioX-Sun's Avatar
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    Vigiox Sun
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    Balmung
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    Miner Lv 90
    There is no tank swap in the fight you can use 2 cds per twinbolts.
    Rampart+thrill
    Vengeance
    Inner beast+ convelance+ equilibrium
    but also you need to memorize when they gonna happen, if you don't you will have problems getting rdy for it, since we don't have more penalty on stance dance ,change to defiance until you get better gear .
    Food an max potions help.
    Also don't stay too close to MT.
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  10. #20
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    Gunnie's Avatar
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    Scarlett Rayne
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    As said above, you don't really need Defiance. When I'm offtanking on my PLD, I never really leave Sword Oath either. Just make sure you pop a cooldown, you have enough to cycle through and you should do fine.
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