warrior melding for twinbolt.

[Tanthalas]

ive been practicing savage and I often (not always) die to twin bolt. I switch to defiance and if its ready activate vengeance for the hit. often defiance is enough but not always. id like to down savage 1 before the reset on Tuesday and cant improve my gear before then other than melding. I cant afford penta-melded accessories. ive read the forums as I'm thinking melding tenacity might give me the extra little bit I need. but theres a lot of argument over it and I really confused. the most successful group I had hit enrage at 11%. as a war the damage I do isn't substantial and I cant see direct hit making up on that lost 11%.

please advise!

as I said before my biggest problem is dying once a fight usually to twinbolt

[Marxam]

eat food if you don't have and use reprisal on twin bolt as that helps a lot. It happens every 60 seconds so the timing is perfect and you can even rotate between the tanks in case you need to reprisal raid aoe or stack mechanic. I usually holmgang the charybids + twinbolt combo just in case I'm not topped off but you really shouldn't be dying if you pop a cd and use reprisal. I only had 45k hp in deliverance when I cleared it in the first week and at most I drop to about 8-10k hp with rampart.

[Kyrph]

I think it is more of a CD management problem but tenacity melding would give you some DR but I believe Direct hit is the best right now for all tanks. As long as you have active mitigation up such as rampart, vengeance and combo it with an inner beast or reprisal you should be fine and shouldn't have to switch anything around. Being in defiance and using thrill of battle will probably keep you alive as well if you are topped.

[Praesul]

Defiance won't do anything. Defiance on its own does not increase your HP when you switch to it, and it doesn't make you take less damage, so it won't help you in this case at all.

Also it shouldn't be a case of "if vengeance is ready". It should be either vengeance or rampart for twin bolt, there's no reason for you not to have at least one of them for every twin bolt. Vengeance for one, Rampart + reprisal for the next one (and honestly reprisal isn't neccessary either, you can save that for raidwide damage if you'd like).

In case of emergencies you have holmgang or thrill of battle + rampart/vengeance if you're too low before the cast finishes.

You've basically been taking naked twin bolts, that's why you're dying.

[Kyrph]

Defiance won't do anything. Defiance on its own does not increase your HP when you switch to it, and it doesn't make you take less damage, so it won't help you in this case at all.

If you use defiance preemptively it gives your healers time to get you topped and a larger health pool to survive the hit as well as access to inner beast as well if you don't have active mitigation. Also thrill of the battle will also give you even more health since it gives you 20% of you HP. Just giving all the options available to him if he is having trouble surviving ^^

[Praesul]

If you use defiance preemptively it gives your healers time to get you topped and a larger health pool to survive the hit as well as access to inner beast as well if you don't have active mitigation. Just giving all the options available to him ^^

In this instance defiance won't solve anything. He's switching to it right before the twin bolt cast (or during) so unless he receives a heal he gets no benefit. You could pool gauge and use inner beast if you really have to but again, that's unnecessary.

You could use defiance beforehand and ask your healers to heal you but why would you? It's worse than staying in deliverance and A. not needing to be healed and B. not lowering your damage dealt.

I just want it to be clear what he's doing wrong and what defiance actually does.

[Kyrph]

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I agree but I was also giving advice of using it preemptively not switch right before the hit. You wouldn't be in defiance really that long and wouldn't lose that much damage using an inner beast. Also you could use equilibrium right as you switch to gain the health if anything since gaining TP isn't really needed ever in that fight.

[SyzzleSpark]

You've basically been taking naked twin bolts, that's why you're dying.

Pretty much this.

[Freyyy]

Gear won't help you. You should just stay in Deliverance and pop Vengeance or Thrill or Rampart, + Reprisal, if you die with this, it's either because you weren't full HP (which means that your healers were slacking), or you had a vulnerability debuff from another mechanic, in which case you should switch to Defiance and use Inner Beast on top of the other CDs for safety. And pop your CD at the beginning of the cast, not at the end, otherwise it won't register in time and you'll take the full damage.

[Darkaeth]

For twinbolt you should be using cool downs, rampart or vengeance, and if neither are up swapping to your tank stance should keep you alive.

I'm able to take a twin bolt to the face in my dps stance and typically survive with about 3 to 5k hp. (With tenacity set) but I will floor tank in DH gear if I don't use a cool down.

I'm not sure if tenacity plays a huge part or not, but my "tenacity set" sits at approx 1725, whereas my "Direct hit" set has me around 1250ish.