Why is StormBlood full of dps that never aoe?

[Spiriel_Basanda]

Let's also not pretend trash mobs are "super fun gameplay" no matter what skills you're using.

I'm not gonna buy the argument "Pressing 1 2 3 etc" is just as fun as "Pressing 1..........1.............1.............1.........1"

I do actually enjoy the dungeons, heh.

[Elnidfse]

No, the dps lost not using quick nock outweighs the free procs. While it's fun to see free aoe dps, the setup takes far too long. Source: brd main most of ARR, and have it at 70 as my main on one of my characters.



Let's also not pretend trash mobs are "super fun gameplay" no matter what skills you're using.

I'd rather my "super fun gameplay" take 15 minutes as opposed to 20-30

[HalfLegend]

I know that feel. I mean, as a monk when the tank mass pull the dungeon (which they always do now since its been a month >_>) I just go: Well, you better keep aggro, cuz here I go. TS+PB+RoF--> Spam RB. And this happen, I die. Cuz the tank think that getting all adds means its only going to die and that is job is done.

If tank want big aoe from our part, they better be ready for taking everything.

Althos I have to say that the mobs in the dungeons of SB do hit more harder.

[Okamimaru]

As for aoe usage I can only spam so much before I\\\\'ve run out of tp and kenki... even with invigorate I\\\\'m usually totally tapped out but the 3rd large pack (ala mhigo, im looking at you)... as for not using goad I don\\\\'t take it myself because I shouldn\\\\'t be resposible for my tp, sen, kenki, and YOUR resource management... if it was a group wide tp regen it would be a different story... people also have totally forgotten there are items in game that will boost tp regen (and they are dirt cheap cuz nobody uses them)... so I\\\\'m not switching my crossbar just to pop goad on you because you can\\\\'t be bothered to manage your own characters abilities and items... want to speed run make a pf... df is a terrible place for such massive pulls...

[Leogon255]

people also have totally forgotten there are items in game that will boost tp regen (and they are dirt cheap cuz nobody uses them).

What items are you talking about? The only TP restoring items I see are PvP only.

[Nowakii]

What i dont get is why do we have Aoe skills that deal less dmg the more targets we have... Like an aoe that gets punished by Aoeing.... whut?

[Kitfox]

As for aoe usage I can only spam so much before I\\\\'ve run out of tp and kenki... even with invigorate I\\\\'m usually totally tapped out but the 3rd large pack (ala mhigo, im looking at you)... as for not using goad I don\\\\'t take it myself because I shouldn\\\\'t be resposible for my tp, sen, kenki, and YOUR resource management... if it was a group wide tp regen it would be a different story... people also have totally forgotten there are items in game that will boost tp regen (and they are dirt cheap cuz nobody uses them)... so I\\\\'m not switching my crossbar just to pop goad on you because you can\\\\'t be bothered to manage your own characters abilities and items... want to speed run make a pf... df is a terrible place for such massive pulls...

Take Goad. It's a group DPS gain and costs you nothing, all melees should always have it set. You take it because you can and it's useful, not because it is/isn't your job. Do you also not use Feint because mitigating damage is not your responsibility? All roles have their own utility role actions. Use them.

[Joe777]

As a Ninja, when enough enemies are present I will AoE with the frog and Katon/Doton plentifully, but I wont always spam Death Blossom both to preserve TP and maintain Huton via Armor Crushing.

[Alistaire]

I'd rather my "super fun gameplay" take 15 minutes as opposed to 20-30

Yeah, that's kinda the whole point. Nobody wants double-length runs because of dps that don't aoe.

[Ryaz]

I always AoE, but it depends on the circumstances. As a Samurai, AoEing two-three targets produces higher damage, of course, even with Invigorate (no one in dungeons seems to Goad but me), my AoE abilities bleed my TP dry in no time, so I'm usually forced to stop at one point and switch to single target so I can actually still attack.

@Nowakii: That was a conscientious change by SE because they wanted to keep people from just pulling masses of enemies and burning them down. It hasn't stopped anyone from doing it, as mob pack size is determined more by tank/healer than by DPS. It just makes it slower to do.