Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[Galvuu]

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http://imgur.com/a/l84Sr

What's wrong with this then? I'm really sleepy, it's an honest question.
What am I forgetting that favours the 4.05 one?

[Thela]

http://imgur.com/a/l84Sr

What's wrong with this then? I'm really sleepy, it's an honest question.
What am I forgetting that favours the 4.05 one?

But isn't this table made prior to 4.05? I mean i didn't do the math myself but have seen several datasets showing the exact opposite for 4.05 than what this table shows.

At the end of the day, do whichever you feel most comfortable with the difference isn't great. If you lookup the top BLM parses for savage most i have seen are using the 4.0 rotation almost exclusively.

[Galvuu]

But isn't this table made prior to 4.05? I mean i didn't do the math myself but have seen several datasets showing the exact opposite for 4.05 than what this table shows.

At the end of the day, do whichever you feel most comfortable with the difference isn't great. If you lookup the top BLM parses for savage most i have seen are using the 4.0 rotation almost exclusively.

No, that's why the cast times are 2.8s.
Nothing else changed regarding the rotation (other than free Foul, but that just means, together with the reduced cast times, that you can put it anywhere).
I know the difference isn't great, but I like to min/max, so if something's wrong there, I'd like to see it (a source for your data works too).

[prophecy4seen]

http://imgur.com/a/l84Sr

Can someone explain what one does if you dont get the instant manatick? dont get the free TC proc and dont have foul? because this happens alot more than people realize and should be part of the test.
We need 2 ticks in Umbral for full MP. Unless im missing something, even if the 5F4 rotation does more pps. Its offset by the fact that you will sometimes be in Umbral twiddling your thumbs.
Please let me know if im missing something here

[RyeMinx]

Can someone explain what one does if you dont get the instant manatick? dont get the free TC proc and dont have foul? because this happens alot more than people realize and should be part of the test.
We need 2 ticks in Umbral for full MP. Unless im missing something, even if the 5F4 rotation does more pps. Its offset by the fact that you will sometimes be in Umbral twiddling your thumbs.
Please let me know if im missing something here

Well you need to be trying your best to save a T3P or Foul for these situations. If you don't get a mana tick tho, you just wait until you do, cast 1 spell, then F3 again. Since you had to wait for 1 mana tick, you are able to use either T3, Foul (if it just came up) or B4, then go directly into your AF rotation. Ideally tho, you want to have at least one proc ready going into UI. If not, pray for fast mana tick. As long as you aren't getting no procs with slow mana ticks every rotation, its still worth it to do.

[Galvuu]

Can someone explain what one does if you dont get the instant manatick? dont get the free TC proc and dont have foul? because this happens alot more than people realize and should be part of the test.
We need 2 ticks in Umbral for full MP. Unless im missing something, even if the 5F4 rotation does more pps. Its offset by the fact that you will sometimes be in Umbral twiddling your thumbs.
Please let me know if im missing something here

Depends on speed.
If it's absolutely instant, I'll T3>Foul>F3 or, if I TC'd like 5 seconds ago, I'll Foul>F3 (and get my mana back, as that's 4 seconds of cast time; I may delay F3 for like 0.2 seconds to be sure).
If that's too quick for you (as in, your speed is too high to allow for Foul>F3 and you TC'd like 2 gcds ago), then just B4.