Why is StormBlood full of dps that never aoe?

[Deithwen]

I have a spear.. the pointy end goes into things. Over and over. .. I don't understand what you are talking about.



seriously though, my AOE sucks on anything but LOTS of mobs in a straight line and it absolutely decimates my TP, slowing down future pulls and fights. I am far more useful taking out the big hitter in a pull than doing mediocre AOE damage.

This is how you feel, but this is suboptimal. The drg aoe combo is good, paired with offgcds, Geirskogul and Nastrond. Just don't burn all your tp at once, ask for goad/tp regen to the other melee/ bard mch if you're dry, and if you reach 200-300 tp ish, go back to single target rotation. All of this is assuming the tank is doing big pulls.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

This is how you feel, but this is suboptimal. The drg aoe combo is good, paired with offgcds, Geirskogul and Nastrond. Just don't burn all your tp at once, ask for goad/tp regen to the other melee/ bard mch if you're dry, and if you reach 200-300 tp ish, go back to single target rotation. All of this is assuming the tank is doing big pulls.

You'll have to explain to me how hitting an average of 40 potency over 5 mobs is in anyway worth it as a MCH when I average 260 potency on a single target.

[Starkbeaumont]

well SE nerfed AoE in general with Stormblood. you either suffer a huge damage penalty or have to struggle with resources.
ranged not slotting tactician or melee not using goad isn't really helping either. so i can kinda understand why ppl do single target rotations.
In the end they should learn to AoE anyway.

[Dortharl]

I'm finding happen more and more, it's annoying because it makes big pulls take ages to kill and exhaust healer mana and my cds in the process. I will usually slow it down to an super slow if this happens more than once, if the dps get frustated with the pace they tend to start aoe after that.

[Krotoan]

This is how you feel, but this is suboptimal. The drg aoe combo is good, paired with offgcds, Geirskogul and Nastrond. Just don't burn all your tp at once, ask for goad/tp regen to the other melee/ bard mch if you're dry, and if you reach 200-300 tp ish, go back to single target rotation. All of this is assuming the tank is doing big pulls.

big pulls, lining up all mobs into straight lines and not with some big mother hubbard cleaving the optimal direction. And also assuming the other DPS has TP regen for me, and the pulls are going slow enough I have time to regen between... which is actually BAD for DRG because my stupid new skill rotation has these eye things in it that I have to keep comboing to maintain.... no I'm not bitter.

[alimdia]

You'll have to explain to me how hitting an average of 40 potency over 5 mobs is in anyway worth it as a MCH when I average 260 potency on a single target.

If spread shot is 80 potency, 400 potency over 5 mobs, where are you getting that 260 is better than 400?

big pulls, lining up all mobs into straight lines and not with some big mother hubbard cleaving the optimal direction. And also assuming the other DPS has TP regen for me, and the pulls are going slow enough I have time to regen between... which is actually BAD for DRG because my stupid new skill rotation has these eye things in it that I have to keep comboing to maintain.... no I'm not bitter.

You need some serious practice with DRG.

Yes your aoe is a line instead of a cone, but the line doesn't have to cover every single monster, it just has to touch their hitbox, even if only 2% of your aoe line enters the mob hitbox you're already hitting it, DRG AoE is just a matter of positioning well, and if the other DPS doesn't share your anti-AoE mentality mobs will die fast enough so you don't run out of TP.

Even if you run out of TP you have invigorate, even if invigorate is on CD you will have done more total damage aoeing and waiting for TP than using single target skills trying to conserve TP.

Also there should be enough time between big pulls to recover your TP.

There's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be using your toolkit, they gave you AoEs for a reason, use them.

[AlphaSonic]

Because AoE has been neutered and I don't consider the heightened cost to be worth it for a 60-40 potency attack when my normal attacks hit for 200+.

About the only AoE I do are Bishop and Flamethrower unless we have like 12 mobs lined up. It's just not worth it for a measly 80 potency AoE that has such big drop.

Did you notice that with 2 mobs the AoE turret is already better than Single Target turret? And with 4 mobs Spread Shot is in average more potency than trying to do the single target shots?

With BRD is even better since after dotting all the mobs. You can start using Quick nock and it will be a potency increase always unless there's only 1 mob.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

If spread shot is 80 potency, 400 potency over 5 mobs, where are you getting that 260 is better than 400?

Gauss Round, Rapid Fire, Reload, QR, BS, Heated Shots, Hyper Charge, Reassemble VS 80 potency spread shot with fall off, and overheated Flamethrower. MCH GCD AoE is factually worthless. The 40 potency also is accounting for the GCD+HS+GB. The only point MCH AoE nears decent is when you have Flamethrower boosted to its Max.

Did you notice that with 2 mobs the AoE turret is already better than Single Target turret.

Why yes, yes I did. Anyone with the most minimal of common sense knows that. Why are you bringing up an AoE turret when I'm talking about what the MCH has for their GCDs? Oh, no reason? Good to know.

[Celef]

Just people who cannot multiply numbers, they have been here since ARR launch, and no matter how much you try to explain that 100 potency on 4 enemies is better than 250 on 1 they don't get it.

I've always been told the opposite oO
That aoes in this game suck and better to target 1 mob, did people lie to me ? ^^"
(crappy wanna be DPS trying to learn)

[AlphaSonic]

Gauss Round, Rapid Fire, Reload, QR, BS, Heated Shots, Hyper Charge, Reassemble VS 80 potency spread shot with fall off, and overheated Flamethrower. MCH GCD AoE is factually worthless. The 40 potency also is accounting for the GCD+HS+GB. The only point MCH AoE nears decent is when you have Flamethrower boosted to its Max.

Ammunition boosts your spread shot potency up to 105. And most of those abilities you've said can be used while AoEing. Don't make excuses.

Rapid Fire - Reload - QR - Hyper Charge all boost your AoE too.