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  1. #41
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    TankHunter678's Avatar
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    Selena Zensh
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    There is also that whole cannot glamour things that are a higher level on lower level gear.

    I mean, what if I wanted to make my Augmented Ironworks Fending gear look like the Ishguardian Knight set? I can't, because even though augmented ironworks gear is ilvl 130 vs the ilvl 120 ishguardian set the Ironworks gear is level 50 and the ishguardian set is level 51.
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    Shaelysis Amara
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    There is also that whole cannot glamour things that are a higher level on lower level gear.

    I mean, what if I wanted to make my Augmented Ironworks Fending gear look like the Ishguardian Knight set? I can't, because even though augmented ironworks gear is ilvl 130 vs the ilvl 120 ishguardian set the Ironworks gear is level 50 and the ishguardian set is level 51.
    This is a part of where the whole lvl1 glam items becomes a problem. They are there for anyone to wear but they are also so much better looking than anything a lvl1 has access to. So when the only way to look good is to spend gil you haven't earned yet (since you can't just buy higher lvl armour that you might like) it has the potential to encourage RMT. Let's face it a lot of the sub30 gear is pretty ugly.
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  3. #43
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    There is also that whole cannot glamour things that are a higher level on lower level gear.

    I mean, what if I wanted to make my Augmented Ironworks Fending gear look like the Ishguardian Knight set? I can't, because even though augmented ironworks gear is ilvl 130 vs the ilvl 120 ishguardian set the Ironworks gear is level 50 and the ishguardian set is level 51.
    Because the items you use as glamour will get soulbound to you. And since the level requirement is in the way, you can't utilize it.
    Prevents people from buying items from the market, glamour them on their gear and resell it again.
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  4. #44
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    Evermillion Mariposa
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    Ultros
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    This is such a harmless request in the grand scheme of things and people seem to bitter over the mere notion that new players might have access to it earlier. All this talk about having to earn it, and wanting everything handed to you, etc etc.

    Wtf? The quest is literally you talking to one npc, then talking to someone else, then talking to that first person again. Omg you like...totally worked so super duper hard to earn that. Pfffft. 1-50 is so braindead easy that the fact you still even have to do it to unlock galmour is practically a formality at this point.

    And to me, that's like the only legit reason not to change it at this point. It's so easy to plow through the MSQ that it's probably just not worth it to devote resources to changing when you unlock it. It totally should be changed, but meh, you'll live.
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  5. #45
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Cerberus
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    No! Everyone should be forced to go through the subligar phase! It's a rite of passage!
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  6. #46
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Just on a side note. Stat-wise, the subligars were never compulsory. You can go from Lv 5 gear to Lv 10 then to Lv 14. And if you consider the Beginner's Hall set, then it's actually perfectly fine to go from Lv 5 gear to the Beginner's Set, which is exactly what I did on my new character.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  7. #47
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    Elenia Elsifon
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    I really don't see any harm in earning the Glamour system within the early-mid game. But I'd feel more QoL changes could be made before Glamouring becomes more easily available; like a glamour log or maybe being able to maintain a universal glamour appearance without fear of over leveling your gear and having to replace it thereafter.
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    eck

  8. #48
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Instead of *moving* the NPC to Vesper Bay or whatever, they could just copy him, I'd think, if they really want to keep this quest actually in a lower level area in addition to lowering the level requirement (should they ever do this).

    I mean, if Rowena and Gerolt can literally be in two different places at the same time, I don't see why this guy can't.
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  9. #49
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    Edgar Xerxes
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    Zalera
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    In reality, you don't even need to glamour anything, sub max level. I usually just wear the item 1 level glamour gear while leveling. The beginner stats are trivial. In dungeons I do at least wear the best gear I own, but leveling through Fates, Leaves or PotD, the gear stats don't matter much. I just wear what I feel like wearing. Once at max level, I start glamouring once I get good gear to things I like. There is sometimes when I'm going to be stuck with a hideous piece leveling gear that I would just glamour over so I don't have to dungeon in it, though, but I usually just wait 'til max level.
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    Last edited by Antonio_Xul; 07-29-2017 at 01:30 AM.

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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    This is such a harmless request in the grand scheme of things and people seem to bitter over the mere notion that new players might have access to it earlier. All this talk about having to earn it, and wanting everything handed to you, etc etc.
    Yeah, I don't understand it at all. Who cares if someone wants to glamour something over their low level gear? It hurts no one. What's more, it would be a nice improvement in the QoL for alts... If they lowered the level requirement and redid the glamour system so that we weren't skinning specific pieces of gear and rather setting up individual outfits that don't change even when we change out to new gear... gah, that would be wonderful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Just on a side note. Stat-wise, the subligars were never compulsory. You can go from Lv 5 gear to Lv 10 then to Lv 14. And if you consider the Beginner's Hall set, then it's actually perfectly fine to go from Lv 5 gear to the Beginner's Set, which is exactly what I did on my new character.
    I'm not even sure why people keep bringing up subligar. I actually like that gear. o.0 What's more, it has NOTHING on the potato sacks and caster hats in terms of ugliness.
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