Why is StormBlood full of dps that never aoe?

[Zarabeth]

One thing to think about is that SB killed most aoe skills. The drop off for each monster is terrible now. I'm a SMN main and our aoe damaged is awful now and we aren't the only job this has happened to. I still use my aoe skills but I use them a lot less now as they are mostly crap. I aoe more on WHM now than on SMN.

[LunarEmerald]

One thing to think about is that SB killed most aoe skills. The drop off for each monster is terrible now. I'm a SMN main and our aoe damaged is awful now and we aren't the only job this has happened to. I still use my aoe skills but I use them a lot less now as they are mostly crap. I aoe more on WHM now than on SMN.

If you ignore bane, it's not that bad. You painflare and manually dot. The dots are still strong and applying manually or with tridiaster puts them at full strength. Painflare has no drop off either.

[Alistaire]

I found SAM aoe to be...annoying. Good numbers of course, they have the same threshhold as other melee about when to aoe, but the back and forth between conal > around you > conal > around you > conal could put some people off.

[Zarabeth]

If you ignore bane, it's not that bad. You painflare and manually dot. The dots are still strong and applying manually or with tridiaster puts them at full strength. Painflare has no drop off either.

Bane makes me sad inside now. As to the new rotations that's what I do for the most part just so I won't get bored while waiting for Bahamut to be available. Painflare is the only thing that didn't get nerfed for aoes. Deathflare and Bane were both murdered. *sniffles some*

[Donaria]

As a drg main since 2.0 launch I would like to throw my 2cent worth to the discussion.
I do my best dmg to a single target, when a tank pulls many mobs at once I will burn a primary target(s) down first. Once the big guys are down I switch to doom spike combo. (RIP Ring of Thorns). Now with the current patch update if I have nostrad rdy with dragon fire dive when the tank pulls the next set of mobs, combo' d with GK and doom spike that next pack will melt. I am now currently maining sam and i love every opportunity to aoe burst the pack, it's so smooth even when you weave in the kenky skills.
So much fun.

[Sylvina]

AoE? is that some kind of new electronics store?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Because AoE has been neutered and I don't consider the heightened cost to be worth it for a 60-40 potency attack when my normal attacks hit for 200+.

About the only AoE I do are Bishop and Flamethrower unless we have like 12 mobs lined up. It's just not worth it for a measly 80 potency AoE that has such big drop.

[Lozza]

The break even point is around 4-5 on average, though it varies from job to job. In the levelling dungeons I don't see many groups pulling more than 6 individual mobs. So while dps may have access to good aoe, it may simply be that they don't see it as being worth it.

Of course there is always a chance, a good one even, that people don't know their aoe skills as well as their single target ones since they use the single target ones all the time. Honestly though it frustrates me more to see a BLM using Fire II on two mobs, than it does to see Fire I/IV rotation on individual mobs in a group of 6.

[Jib]

I haven't noticed this too much... although i tend to do a big chunk of the AoE myself as I play one of the best AoE Dps classes in the game ......

WHM

[Krotoan]

I have a spear.. the pointy end goes into things. Over and over. .. I don't understand what you are talking about.



seriously though, my AOE sucks on anything but LOTS of mobs in a straight line and it absolutely decimates my TP, slowing down future pulls and fights. I am far more useful taking out the big hitter in a pull than doing mediocre AOE damage.