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  1. #11
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    Rivxkobe's Avatar
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    Carmine Altair
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    Zalera
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by konage View Post
    medica ii
    No. A complete waste of MP and a GCD to cast Medica 2 just for the tank.
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I also wanted to add that all the examples that we have given are best case scenarios. You might get tanks or DPS who suck at dodging aoes, or tanks who are seemingly allergic to cooldowns, so you might end up having to spam Cure II a lot.
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    Vyndrian Larethil
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Spam heals.

    Like...really, that's it.

    If your tank is taking damage greater than spamming Cure2 can handle, then your tank is waaaaaay under-geared, pulling waaaaaay too much, or he's not using CD's. At which point, you cannot do anything except point out these things.
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  4. #14
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    Lyrai Celestine
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 70
    For WHM, healing is the same as ever. There's just a knack for making good use of Lilies, but the rest are still the same.

    Here are my suggestions of what to do when the Tank is about to pull big, all making good use of the Lilies mechanic and making you practically the best healer ever:
    • Sprint in order to catch up with your Tank.
    • Expect when he'll stop pulling and start tanking, use Largesse and cast Asylum on a comfortable spot.
    • Once the Tank uses an AoE hate skill after pulling, cast Regen.
    • Start casting Cure II. If he's taking so much damage, use your Tetragrammaton to push the Tank's health back to a more manageable level.
    • Repeat casting Cure / Cure II until there are 3 lilies, then Assize away!
    • Continue casting Cure / Cure II, Divine Benison, then try weaving a Swiftcast Holy. Use the stun window to cast Aero III.
    • Once done, go back to casting Cure / Cure II, and refresh Regen when needed.
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  5. #15
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    Ven Black
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    Get the tank to a good spot, then benison ->swiftcast-> holy until things are dead or the diminishing returns makes it no longer worth casting.
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    i would say to NOT use regen when the tank pulls large and you struggle to keep him up.
    if you cast regen you lose 2.5 seconds GCD and another 2 seconds to cast an actual heal after that. so nearly 5 seconds in wich the tank doesn't get any real healing. regen is a HoT - a Heal over Time. that's the opposite of burst heal, but you need burst heal for these large pulls.

    just spam Cure 2 / Cure, use your off-gcd heals between th Cure 2 spam like tetra, assize, asylum (wich is a HoT, yes yes, but you lose no GCD when you use it)... and Largesse and Presence of Mind to boost your healing. Eye for an Eye is usefull for large packs too.

    yes, saying a WHM should not use regen is a sacrilege in this community... however: the day i stopped using regen for these large pulls was the day were healing large pulls became a cakewalk for me.
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    Last edited by Tint; 07-27-2017 at 05:37 PM.

  7. #17
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    Ignis Inferne
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    Cerberus
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    Why do I see people saying to use medica II? Nooooooo don't do that, it's overhealing, a waste of mp and generates absurd agro. Also to the above post do use regen just don't use it if u feel like the tank is dipping too quick for u to afford the gcd, once their hp calms down use it. As for large pulls use largesse and cure/cure II + regen, if it's not enough put asylum down, once their hp is stave start spamming that holy and aero III.
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    Maku Haikasu
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignnis View Post
    Why do I see people saying to use medica II? Nooooooo don't do that, it's overhealing, a waste of mp and generates absurd agro. Also to the above post do use regen just don't use it if u feel like the tank is dipping too quick for u to afford the gcd, once their hp calms down use it. As for large pulls use largesse and cure/cure II + regen, if it's not enough put asylum down, once their hp is stave start spamming that holy and aero III.
    In larger pulls Medica 2 is never overhealing. The regen from Medica 2 and from Regen means that I cast fewer Cures and thus more Holy's. The rate at which tanks health drop, yeah medica 2 is NEVER over healing anymore. Not for the groups of mobs that my tanks usually pull.
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    In larger pulls Medica 2 is never overhealing. The regen from Medica 2 and from Regen means that I cast fewer Cures and thus more Holy's. The rate at which tanks health drop, yeah medica 2 is NEVER over healing anymore. Not for the groups of mobs that my tanks usually pull.
    Medica II will pretty much ALWAYS overheal. You are overhealing, generally, with the initial heal on everyone but the tank, as well as the entirety of the HoT as well.

    And the HoT on Medica II only has a potency of 50. It's weak for a single target HoT and cannot be relied on to keep someone's HP, who is constantly taking damage, up.

    @Person saying not to use Regen: if you have a good tank Regen is amazing. And you can easily just use Tetra or Bene if they drop quickly after you cast Regen. Regen is a very strong heal and NOT using it makes healing big pulls much harder.
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    Romulo Remo
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 80
    It depends on the tank really.
    I like to cast Cure 2 from a distance -when the tank gets the hold of the first pack- to get a Lily. Then run after him and use that Lily to cast Divine benison, Regen, Eye for an eye and Assylum (Tetra if he got to low on HP).
    When I can finally stop for casting I start spamming Cure 2 till I get the hang of the tanks defense. If he's good I can relax and DPS a little, if not you may need to use all your repertoire of spells. Remember that you stop the whole fight for 4 seconds with a simple Holy, which gives you plenty of time to pop "Presence of mind" + "Thin air" and go nuts with whatever you want, either more healing or damage spam.
    Also, personal opinion, I don't think of Benediction as a "last resort skill", it's just my most powerfull heal, if you try to use it when your tank is under 10% he'll probably die from the animation delay anyway. Better to use it when he's under 25-30% and stay safe, the skill will eventually come back anyway.
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