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  1. #71
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    Damane's Avatar
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    Damane Lestrange
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    Cant really add a new Tank or Healer class as well, we have a shield healer, a pure healer and a buff/jack of all trades healer...so what kind of healer do we add now? Without taking to much from the others to make them all the same.

    Same with Tanks we got our defense king Pally, we got a smash zerg war(Vote Make WAR great again), then we with a mid ground DRK.

    Kinda sucks, i mean maybe a Magical themed tank could work, but what about healers? I feel we need more Support classes then anything.


    Also dont forget MCH kinda pretty much sucked in HW so not many wanted to try it out, while RDM and SAM are very good classes and fun to play.
    There are quite a few possibilitys for different Tanks and Healers.
    Dancer for example could be a Frontline Melee Healer, that uses TP for heals instead of MP, offers some buffs and mitgates inc Damage via debuffs on the Mobs.
    Beastmaster or Puppetmaster could be a Pet Tank.

    There are still possiblitys left.
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  2. #72
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    Kinda sucks, i mean maybe a Magical themed tank could work, but what about healers? I feel we need more Support classes then anything.
    Geomancer, focuses heavily on AoE zones.
    Itemist, uses a system in a similar vein to Ninja to quickly mix and hold for needed scenarios.
    Dancer, attacks at melee range and has dances acting similarly to bard songs. HoT heavy.
    Necromancer, redistributes outgoing damage into healing skills.

    Oh honey there are many jobs they could make that do more than just play burst healer or mitigation healer.
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  3. #73
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    NinjaTaru72's Avatar
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    Alessa Ravachi
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 80
    While I normally main sch, I've been doing Sam lately, lvl 69 now. I don't think I've any time yet on sam that it's been more than 10 or so minutes for a que.

    As for new healers/tanks, as others have said. Almost all of the ones who change to new classes of tank/heals are ones that were already a healer or tank. Very few are dps that change over.
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  4. #74
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    Alessa Ravachi
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    Mateus
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    Also, ideas for the future. A cool tank would be Rune Fencer.
    http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Rune_Fencer

    It was implemented late into ffxi's life and I think would be a great add to the ffxiv roster.
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  5. #75
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    ScarletDawn's Avatar
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    Scarlet Dawn
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    Geomancer, focuses heavily on AoE zones.
    Itemist, uses a system in a similar vein to Ninja to quickly mix and hold for needed scenarios.
    Dancer, attacks at melee range and has dances acting similarly to bard songs. HoT heavy.
    Necromancer, redistributes outgoing damage into healing skills.

    Oh honey there are many jobs they could make that do more than just play burst healer or mitigation healer.
    So what is SE's Poor excuse adding 1 Tank and 1 Healer made no difference to dps queues? Clearly it did since DPS queues was god awful at the start of SB. Adding 2 of the most popular job roles from FF games should of been a red flag for SE to turn and say look, lots people might play the new DPS classes and give up Tanks and Healers...but nope.
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  6. #76
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    Teufel Hunden
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    Well as someone who healer a majority of content in this game its the most stressful job, so i find add a DPS/Healer that can act as a third healer in group would work, bit like Chloromancer from Rift, heals with damage the Dancer sounds like a nice idea but SE really need to tone down the pressure on the most vital roles, this is why people turn to DPS, cause its easier to play and less stressful.

    You play a game to have fun, not the stress out about trying to heal a raid every second cause of massive damage. Maybe they need to add more rewarding skills to Healers and tanks for using them at the right times, then just making a Tanky HP block to soak damage and a Mana battery that pumps out mass heals for healing.

    Maybe a healer with a rotation would be a nice idea.
    Loved playing chloromancer, it was the one healer that made me leave tanking, at least for a bit. A Reaverr style tank would be my suggestion, as it was my favorite in rift, establish hate with the sickness you spread to the enemy and heal yourself with the stolen health. Ooh yea!!
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    Last edited by Tufelhunden; 07-27-2017 at 09:31 PM.

  7. #77
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    Scarlet Dawn
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tufelhunden View Post
    Loved playing chloromancer, it was the one healer that made me leave tanking, at least for a bit. A Reaverr style tank would be my suggestion, as it was my favorite in rift, establish hate with the sickness you spread to the enemy and heal yourself with the stolen health. Ooh yea!!
    I kinda thought Dark knight would be the same as a Reaver in this game since they spread darkness and would use it to heal, while being a mp based tank not tp...but instead they just made them a Warrior with a Sword that uses mp not tp.
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  8. #78
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    Jas710's Avatar
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    Wolf Spyder
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Remove all tank and healer jobs and turn them into bot roles so everyone can just play dps. Queue issues fixed. See how easy that was?
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  9. #79
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jas710 View Post
    Remove all tank and healer jobs and turn them into bot roles so everyone can just play dps. Queue issues fixed. See how easy that was?
    And what about those of us like me that actually enjoy playing tank and healer? What do we do?
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    White Mage ~ Sage ~ Astrologian
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  10. #80
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    Wolf Spyder
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    And what about those of us like me that actually enjoy playing tank and healer? What do we do?
    Take up fishing.
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