Sadly sayiing goodbye to SCH

[Ogulbuk]

I have done my best to stay positive, but after a disastrous night running with my SCH last night, I am afraid I am going to shelf the job and start leveling either WHM or AST.

I am not even sure why the devs felt the job needed a healing nerf in Stormblood, it was always less than stellar healing wise. I struggled to get it to 70, and I struggle every time I tank with a SCH in as main healer in a dungeon.

What was the point of lowering the healing potency of the fairy, and increasing the end cost of the heals? It was always bad enough our main heals were tied to resource systems (and shared with other tools) limiting how many times per minute we can use Lustrate.

I try to heal, and run out of MP because Adloquium is disgustingly MP inefficient and Physick too slow to get the job done. I would be tempted to use Energy Drain but that is one less Lustrate that now must be replaced by a MP eating spell, so not worth it.

Some things got a bit better at level 70 due to 4.05, the fay union thing is somewhat decent, when I can use it, but that does not help me in roulettes. So, since I don't expect the Fay and MP nerfs to be rolled back and I'm tired of slowing groups down my SCH is now getting shelved. If I'm tanking... I honestly think I'll also just drop out if the healer is a SCH. I rather watch TV than run the dungeon that slowly*.

*again, changes made 70 bearable, this is pre 68 dungeons.

**Hate finding subject typos post thread posting... why cant we edit subjects??? bah.

[jstamos]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Scholars are STELLAR for roulettes; if it's not working out for you, that's on you. I pull 1.5k DPS on trash while having zero problems healing, and with the 4.05 changes, we're pretty solid outside of a few annoyances that have always been there (Dissipation/summon MP costs, loss of AF stacks on death).

I can even heal with a second SCH in normal 8-man content without feeling like we're constantly fighting each other with the Emergency Tactics cooldown buff.

Seriously, SCH is in a solid place and is only behind ASTs because of Noct needs a nerf.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Agree with jstamos.

I get the feeling that people leaving SCH now only played the job in HW because it was OP/EZ mode and now they simply can't cope (hence switching to AST).

I have zero issues with MP, zero issues healing and zero issues contributing nice DPS to my parties.

[Dregenfox]

SCH's single-target healing capability is arguably stronger than WHM (bene won't be up for every pull), and you shouldn't be running out of MP in DF - the fights just aren't long enough.

Pressing indom is like a get-out-of-jail-free card in dungeons too, every 30s.

[Ogulbuk]

Scholars are STELLAR for roulettes; if it's not working out for you, that's on you.

And every single SCH that I end up with in groups.

I pull 1.5k DPS on trash while having zero problems healing, and with the 4.05 changes, we're pretty solid outside of a few annoyances that have always been there (Dissipation/summon MP costs, loss of AF stacks on death).

My issue is not damage, it's healing with large pulls, but hey, if you have an easy time, maybe its just me. Maybe indeed I just suck and am a terrible SCH magnet. Either way, I'm done dealing with the job. A good thing for the world if my issues are just that I suck. (-_-)b

I get the feeling that people leaving SCH now only played the job in HW because it was OP/EZ mode and now they simply can't cope (hence switching to AST).

I played it since ARR came out for the PS4, for whatever that is worth. This is the first time I hear people claim SCH was OP/EZ mode. OP always was AST and EZ Mode WHM.

[jstamos]

. Maybe indeed I just suck

Maybe you (and these other scholars you group with) just haven't adjusted for 4.0 properly. Either way, SCH's in a solid spot, and it's not the class. Sorry.

[Ogulbuk]

Maybe you (and these other scholars you group with) just haven't adjusted for 4.0 properly. Either way, SCH's in a solid spot, and it's not the class. Sorry.

Honest question: you honestly think a party with a SCH can be pushed just as hard as a party with a WHM or an AST?

[jstamos]

Honest question: you honestly think a party with a SCH can be pushed just as hard as a party with a WHM or an AST?

Yes, without question. I do it almost literally every day. AST has the worst MP management, so they're actually much worse with longer pulls than SCH.

[Enla]

Honest question: you honestly think a party with a SCH can be pushed just as hard as a party with a WHM or an AST?

Easily. I've healed everything but Savage content at this moment and I barely blink at the oncoming damage unless I'm half asleep and performing sub-optimally. Rouse + Whispering Dawn, Emergency Tactics with it's lowered cooldown, and Indominability are all EXTREMELY potent skills - and that's not even touching on the fact that Excog essentially makes ALL tank busters literal jokes.

Above all that though the best way to play SCH is to learn the fights and dungeons liberally. We've always been /that/ class that requires extensive knowledge of the fight in order to shine. If that's not your playstyle then I would suggest switching as they made it more prevalent with this expansion than ever.

[VanilleFang]

OP always was AST and EZ Mode WHM.

Not even close.

WHM has always been the "easy" healer to LEARN. But in content? SCH has always been a joke to play as in dungeons. Yes WHM has Holy post-45 but SCH always has a fairy, and in many dungeons they functions as a third DPS. SCH in raids had a high skill ceiling, but that only came from managing your fairy. Anyone with half a brain could heal as SCH because their shields were ridiculously strong, and they had near infinite MP.

AST wasn't OP until 3.4, and was not released until 3.0. But do you know what SCH has always had since it's release? A guaranteed spot in any end game raid. SCH has always been strong, if not OP, since ARR.