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  1. #11
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    Ayaria's Avatar
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    Claire Fraser
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    Thanks for this amazing rotations.

    I tryed NJA's and i noticed some issues.

    I have 536 CP with genius, and Tempura HQ. After Bryegots Blessing and Careful III i only have 6 cp left. I haven't get good or excellent status for tricks of the trade. I think the simulator used tot how it shown in the picture. It should be easy to solve if you change the first Ingenuity II to I. I personal don't need Careful III at the end with 1431 craftmanship, but maybe with lower stats.
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  2. 07-21-2017 02:20 AM

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    Whale Lip
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    Ragnarok
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    Weaver Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NJA View Post
    Somehow I've just had my macro fail by a few points of progress, despite having used it successfully many times. You may want to add 1 Craft point to avoid this potential problem if you are using it.
    If you get the ToT proc the careful synthesis 3 will no longer get affected by Ing 2. Might be this
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  4. #13
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    Tesla Silvermane
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayaria View Post
    Thanks for this amazing rotations.

    I tryed NJA's and i noticed some issues.

    I have 536 CP with genius, and Tempura HQ. After Bryegots Blessing and Careful III i only have 6 cp left. I haven't get good or excellent status for tricks of the trade. I think the simulator used tot how it shown in the picture. It should be easy to solve if you change the first Ingenuity II to I. I personal don't need Careful III at the end with 1431 craftmanship, but maybe with lower stats.
    If ToT doesn't proc, you expect the 2xCS3 to fail and complete it with the 3xCS2 instead.
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  5. #14
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    Tesla Silvermane
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    Quote Originally Posted by tayler1480 View Post
    If you get the ToT proc the careful synthesis 3 will no longer get affected by Ing 2. Might be this
    That's factored in on the simulation, but in practice it seems to round differently and miss by a few points. Can be fixed by another point or 2 of Craft, will check tonight. Odd thing is I'm sure I've had it work fine yesterday
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  6. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJA View Post
    That's factored in on the simulation, but in practice it seems to round differently and miss by a few points. Can be fixed by another point or 2 of Craft, will check tonight. Odd thing is I'm sure I've had it work fine yesterday
    A little weird. Only other thing that comes to mind is if you have different melds on tools for different specialists. So you might have slightly low craftsmanship for 1 specialist & not the others?
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  7. #16
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    Tesla Silvermane
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    Quote Originally Posted by tayler1480 View Post
    A little weird. Only other thing that comes to mind is if you have different melds on tools for different specialists. So you might have slightly low craftsmanship for 1 specialist & not the others?
    After throwing some time and Gil at testing, it does appear that progress can fail in certain circumstances. Adding 3 Craft was insufficient to fix this, but adding 6 was enough to make sure it completes exactly even with no procs. I've updated the rotation to state this requirement. (Did not test 4 or 5 more, but playing it safe.). I've achieved this by melding 2xCraft I materia, but it could be covered by any method.

    The old Craft requirement will be enough if you choose to up your CP by using HQ Tempura or adding a CP Tea, but the point of the rotation was to use just NQ Tempura. Given how cheap Craft I materia are, the extra melds seem the best way to go.

    Sorry for the confusion. Love the rotation now that I'm confident it's fixed!
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  8. #17
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    Agunimon Kenbara
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    Tonberry
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I have 1362 Crafts, even food effects wear off during craft can still finish with III,III and II.
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  9. #18
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    Kinky Pervymind
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    Shiva
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by NJA View Post
    1346 will always complete
    I have 1352 craftsmanship, and it worked 95% of the time, but I still got the odd fail - I assume due to a poor condition midway.

    I changed your rotation to this, to get another CSIII in, which now gives me enough progress, sacrificing quality.
    So far, it is working for me, no fails yet:



    /ac "Initial Preparations" <wait.3>
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
    /ac "Specialty: Reflect" <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Piece by Piece" <wait.3>
    /ac "Piece by Piece" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>


    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis III" <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand" <wait.2>
    /ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Tricks Of The Trade" <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis III" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis III" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis III" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
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    Last edited by Janga; 07-26-2017 at 04:02 PM.

  10. 07-26-2017 08:21 PM

  11. #19
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    Areku Foxfire
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    What's the point of using ingenuity twice like that? Couldn't you just save it until the end and do all the carefuls at once for less CP requirement?
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 07-28-2017 at 07:03 AM.

  12. #20
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    Weaver Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    What's the point of using ingenuity twice like that? Couldn't you just save it until the end and do all the carefuls at once for less CP requirement?
    Since lvl 70** is higher than our level it also affects quality
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