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  1. #11121
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Siesta Fiesta
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Fire II only 80 potency = 240 potency for 3 targets
    Fire IV is 260 potency so it beats it by 20
    The problem is that Fire IV doesn't refresh Astral Fire, so after 2-3 Fire IVs, you have to throw in a regular Fire, which is 180 potency, or just a Fire II. Also, Fire II hitting more targets gives it more chances to score direct or critical hits, but that's unpredictable anyway.

    Whatever the case, in Sirensong, a BLM's AoE rotation should also include a Thunder II every once in a while, whether on proc or hardcast, and Flare.
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  2. #11122
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    Ilyrian's Avatar
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    Ilyrian Silvermoon
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KalinOrthos View Post
    Same thing with WoW. There is a lot of good content there, Legion is actually a really good expansion, but all the accumulated garbage from over-homoginization and outdated mechanics just drives me away. But it is so accessable that you really can just download and play current content and have a pretty good grasp on what to do. It's the McDonald's of MMOs.
    I'm a recent WoW convert - after almost 12 years - and you are correct but in fairness a lot of the things that 'saved' ARR were lifted straight from WoW. What is interesting, I'm finding, is the way ARR seems to be going through the same process as WoW did over the years – things (not necessarily dumbing down) but changing to accommodate a more WoW-eque design ethos. Either way SE has my money now.
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  3. #11123
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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    Whatever the case, in Sirensong, a BLM's AoE rotation should also include a Thunder II every once in a while, whether on proc or hardcast, and Flare.
    Yeah I know the Thunder II and Flare also, was only pointing out why you might not see BLM using Fire II as often since SB. For getting Astral Fire back after 2-3 Fire IV yes of course if there is still 3 targets it is better than Fire I, but yeah it confused me at first when I saw BLMs not using Fire II very much so I figured some others may have not noticed why just like I did. I didn't figure it out till I played BLM some on my BF's character and saw the potency changes.
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    Last edited by Miste; 07-24-2017 at 08:12 PM.

  4. #11124
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    Dayala's Avatar
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    D'ayhala Uhn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I actually got chewed out by 1 dps and a healer clearing out a dungeon during leveling roulette while capping my pld. First time since v1.0 of the game that I hear someone get mad over getting exp. Here I thought I was being nice, as a tank, to clear out all the mobs from a leveling dungeon, for the dps that probably had be queu'd for 30 minutes.

    Lesson learned i guess? Stay classy.
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  5. #11125
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    Ignnis's Avatar
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    Ignis Inferne
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Had a PLD in temple if the fist who face pulled and didn't use flash, the day has come, duty finder randys have finally broken me, I must take my leave and only queue with fc members. Joking but seriously how can you get to 70 and be so bad.

    Had a rage inducing moment in o3, my co healer was about as useful as a chocolate fire guard, was dead 50% of the fight, I ended up carrying half the dps and him. I roll for my loot (you know where this is going) but floor healer wins. I leave that instance with 0 coms too, I stole my fc members for every run after that, never.again.

    Last mini story, got Susan on trial roulette, decided to MT and during the sword phase I learned something new. Did u know you can fail the sword phase and wipe if your dps is so bad? I didn't but now I do, you have 25 seconds to kill it, after 25 sec on attempt 1 it got to about 50% hp, I just let Susan kill me at that point, free me from this realm mighty kami. Second attempt we get it down, just, but the bad dps stretches the third phase for maybe 5-10 mins it felt like eternity. Dps and one healer kept eating dirt, poor whm was carrying them and as MT I just got to watch the train wreck in slow motion. The SAMs kept getting cosy with me during stormsplitter, may they find peace in the afterlife. At one point so many dps died that the thunder aoes started aligning with me so I had to take Susan on a magical mystery tour every time they appeared. I was helping with healing as much as clemency can, reprisaling any arena aoes when I could to help my poor whm. We ended up seeing 1 lb3 and 2 lb1s the dps was that bad but we cleared it, somehow. Honestly if your dps is so bad you can't nuke the sword you really need to check your rotation out guys...
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    Last edited by Ignnis; 07-24-2017 at 09:38 PM.
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  6. #11126
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    AkashiXI's Avatar
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    Akashi Mousai
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dayala View Post
    I actually got chewed out by 1 dps and a healer clearing out a dungeon during leveling roulette while capping my pld. First time since v1.0 of the game that I hear someone get mad over getting exp. Here I thought I was being nice, as a tank, to clear out all the mobs from a leveling dungeon, for the dps that probably had be queu'd for 30 minutes.

    Lesson learned i guess? Stay classy.
    Depends on the dungeon and their current level. If you get Satasha as a lv50+, you will want to finish the dingeon ASAP, as the bonus exp comes from the last boss. If you get Doma's castle as a level 67, then the difference is neglible.
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  7. #11127
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    Niraves's Avatar
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    Niraves Lunas
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Joking but seriously how can you get to 70 and be so bad.
    It's called a Jump Potion. Welcome to the new world.
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  8. #11128
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AkashiXI View Post
    Depends on the dungeon and their current level. If you get Satasha as a lv50+, you will want to finish the dingeon ASAP, as the bonus exp comes from the last boss. If you get Doma's castle as a level 67, then the difference is neglible.
    Yep. It also never hurts to ask "Do people want a full or quick clear?" - usually speaking people speak up and give their preference. I tend to ask that only if I see someone not level synced though. If I see everyone level synced, I tend to assume quick clear.
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    White Mage ~ Sage ~ Astrologian
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  9. #11129
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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I was spamming a lot of Omega (normal) on WHM last night to try to get a few parts to get my healer up to i320. I got paired up with a lot of WHMs and most were okay. Some were unfamiliar with the fight so I had to carry a burden a bit more but I didn't mind that either and I would expect that from any first timer too.

    Then I ran into this one WHM in O1N who had VIT melds in their accessories. I think they only had a Regen on the MT for about 35% of the fight and using very few of their cooldowns to help me - effectively forcing me to solo heal the entire fight and focussing their own efforts on their "MUH SUPER DEEPS!" mentality. It was very stressful for me because people were taking vuln stacks everywhere as well due to unfamiliarity of the fight. Normally this doesn't bug me but what pissed me off the most about this particular healer is that you would think VIT melds = player who raids and knows how to optimize for fights and work with their partner to minimize healer stress. Nope, it became a "I'm not gonna give a rats ass about the party and just focus on being selfish". [edit2] I'm glad we have a cross-world contact list where we can see players we instanced with recently and have the option to blacklist them if we don't really want to deal with them in PF. I did that so fast with this WHM it's not even funny >>;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    I've run into a tank that did that (in the process wasting every single Crit-Adlo I managed to get on him for the prepull), but I know he wasn't a bot because we were chatting throughout the dungeon. Just...Kept trying to pull from behind.
    This PLD would actually run behind the boss and just kinda keep zigzagging behind the boss for like an additional 10-15s before finally pulling the boss. It was so.... quaint. >>; It almost felt like he enjoyed the weapon drawn sprint animation for PLD (which I will admit I love it too, lol)
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 07-24-2017 at 10:59 PM.

  10. #11130
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    Ashennae's Avatar
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    Mel Knight
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 95

    Why are people jerks?

    Alright I've got a few stories.

    First one has no screenshots, but I was doing Bismark HM for trials roulette as a Red Mage. Normally for fights you can fling yourself off the platform, I take off Displacement from my bar so I don't fall off the edge. There were two other red mages in the party, and inevitably, one accidentally throws them self off of the edge. They even commented about it in Party Chat earlier with "Oops. I messed up." We were doing fine until after the second phase with the two adds and somewhere around trying to damage Bismark's corona we came up short for DPS, and thus, we wiped. The DRK tank decides to say "I wouldn't expect any less from red mages. Nah man I'm done for the night. Enjoy your ques." and then he on purpose threw himself off the edge and went offline. We somehow managed to 7-man Bismark the second time around. Nobody threw themselves off the edge, nothing. I commended the tank who stuck with us and many victory poses were emoted afterwards.

    Second one I was dragging my FC mate through Expert Roulette. We get Kugane Castle.
    The following happens:

    Please note, for the sake of keeping the TOS what the tank (in orange) called me is censored.
    So, not wanting to put up with this pleasant gentleman, I decided to bounce, and my FC mate shortly followed. I reported, then blacklisted him of course.

    Third story was an interesting case. I wanted to farm Shisui for the swimsuits, and I already had the caster one, and my WHM was the closest one at that level.
    So I bugged my FC mate once again, and we hit up Shisui. Only to be greeted with this lovely tank:



    She wasted five minutes of our time. ._. Look, I get it. DF is full of jerks, but that don't mean you gotta take it out on the rest of us! Since another 30 minute penalty wasn't worth it, we did kick her. I blacklisted, too.
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    Last edited by Ashennae; 07-24-2017 at 11:07 PM. Reason: Post length for moar stories. :D also fixed a censorship thing

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