"Play what you want!"

[Umbeliel]

snip snip is not going to work 90% of the time. My 2 cents.

More or less yeah. More details for helpful responses is great. Just telling them play what you like is almost always going to be useless.

I don't see how this is "problematic". Snip. I know I would love to have some advice from more experienced people before I jump blindly into tht important of a decision.


Compound onto this the fact that party finder, duty finder, heck, these forums themselves, all push this crazy agenda called "The Meta" and tend to assault any players that don't fall in line.

It's like you don't understand, but then do, and then don't again so you counter your point.

[Fluffernuff]

It's like you don't understand, but then do, and then don't again so you counter your point.

It's not a counter. It's a continuation to the topic.

If you genuinely need direction, would you rather have an, in your words, an open and unhelpful guidance? or someone shouting jargon you don't understand in your face waving a big stick?

"play what you want!" was, to my knowledge, formed in defiance to the whole meta pushing thing to begin with.

[Umbeliel]

It's not a counter. It's a continuation to the topic.

If you genuinely need direction, would you rather have an, in your words, an open and unhelpful guidance? or someone shouting jargon you don't understand in your face waving a big stick?

"play what you want!" was, to my knowledge, formed in defiance to the whole meta pushing thing to begin with.

Both is good. Play what you want is neither.

[Fluffernuff]

Both is good. Play what you want is neither.

All right then. I thought the inital post was enough, but let's think a little more personally about this.


I have found, in my personal experience working with these sprouts(actually going out into the zones and using say chat like a filthy animal), that spouting jargon is about as helpful as using a different language. Meta or otherwise. I have to wonder how often you go out to communicate with these guys. Or is this Novice Network anecdotes? Regardless.

If we assume the sprout's perspective, "Play what you want!" is rather unhelpful by itself. Yet, if a player is asking that it leads to more questions- which is actually a good thing. It's far better to have an inquisitive and open mind than literally slapping them in the face with a 14 page guide. Or mocking them for daring to consider MCH... or SMN. because how dare they, right?

You see, I'll say again, you give them too much credit. Not because you should assume they are idiots, but because you assume they want knowledge. Knowledge you don't have the proper information to provide. Information that is, actually, much better provided if you answer a certain "problematic" response.

What do they enjoy? What are their end goals? What kind of roles do they enjoy? Any of these things are answered from breaking the ice with "Play what you want!" Or the player in question knows what that is already and... plays what they want. Either way help was provided.


You can't, and frankly shouldn't, tell someone what they like or should like because they asked. It can be overwhelming. Heck, the few times I've checked if NN has gotten any better, it's usually a fight because a mentor overstepped their bounds and started telling sprouts what they should play.