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  1. #21
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    OcieKo's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Ociela Koslun
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DacienSanderon View Post
    I feel like a fairly large part of the game is leveling roulettes, where you get a very incomplete package of abilities. People seem to always be judging tanks off of ex raid performance when that makes up a small amount of the gameplay for a small amount of the player base. Drk really loses out in this regard. AD isn't till 56 and TBN isn't till 70. War and paladin both seem far more complete at lower levels than Drk.
    DPS stuff is acquired a lot later on PLD, aoe dmg at 46/50, DPS combo finishers at 52/60. WAR is last to ginish its enmity combo at 30. Both WAR and DRK get their DPS combo finishers at 38, WAR gets a 2nd at 50, this is a hole in DRKs kit, no 3rd combo finisher. AOE dmg DRK 6/40/52/56/64, WAR at 10/45/60. PLD has no gap closer but had the best Ranged DPS option in Holy Spirit, but comes with the downside of both 2 of its 3 major synergies needing the PLD in melee range. Tradeoffs all around for the lvling bit.
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  2. #22
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    Quri's Avatar
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    Character
    Quri Visqi
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    War needs utility for party, and I don't play DRK, but from what I have heard, Dark passenger needs to be fixed, and they need to do something with DRK not being complete till 68. I do get that PLD is the only tank class that gets better as you level up, and PLD skills not being tied to any stances make it flexible.
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  3. #23
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    YitharV2's Avatar
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    Arnar Grande
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DacienSanderon View Post
    I feel like a fairly large part of the game is leveling roulettes, where you get a very incomplete package of abilities. People seem to always be judging tanks off of ex raid performance when that makes up a small amount of the gameplay for a small amount of the player base. Drk really loses out in this regard. AD isn't till 56 and TBN isn't till 70. War and paladin both seem far more complete at lower levels than Drk.
    Well they are the original tanks, and afaik SE had trouble balancing tanks before DRK ever appeared.
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  4. #24
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    Galgarion's Avatar
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    Character
    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    Is there any reason to buy groceries when you can eat grass clippings? Lots of people mow their lawn. That's free grass clippings! Grass clippings can do the same thing that groceries can. Just need to boil them. Food is for stoopids.
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  5. #25
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    Conna's Avatar
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    Kaos Conna
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    Is there any reason to buy groceries when you can eat grass clippings? Lots of people mow their lawn. That's free grass clippings! Grass clippings can do the same thing that groceries can. Just need to boil them. Food is for stoopids.
    Those aren't comparable as grass clippings aren't classified as food, that would be like saying a dps that takes threat from the tank is a tank now, because he doesn't die in 1 hit and has threat.
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  6. #26
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    DWolfwood's Avatar
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    Dylan Wolfwoodicus
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Conna View Post
    Those aren't comparable as grass clippings aren't classified as food, that would be like saying a dps that takes threat from the tank is a tank now, because he doesn't die in 1 hit and has threat.
    He's saying that PLD is grass clippings and DRK/WAR are food, so PLD should be buffed. ヽ༼◐ل͜◑༽ノ
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  7. #27
    Player
    Galgarion's Avatar
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    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Conna View Post
    Those aren't comparable as grass clippings aren't classified as food, that would be like saying a dps that takes threat from the tank is a tank now, because he doesn't die in 1 hit and has threat.
    Grass clipping are considered food by bovines. Bovines are Mammals. Humans are mammals too. I just double-jumped your rook with my checker.
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  8. #28
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    zipzo's Avatar
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    大阪市
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    Zipzo Zx
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    Grass clipping are considered food by bovines. Bovines are Mammals. Humans are mammals too. I just double-jumped your rook with my checker.
    To be perfectly fair, your analogy was crap but I can't tell if it was humorously intended or you actually felt it was an effective one.
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    Last edited by zipzo; 07-23-2017 at 05:56 PM.

  9. #29
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    Galgarion's Avatar
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    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by zipzo View Post
    To be perfectly fair, your example was analogy was crap but I can't tell if it was humorously intended or you actually felt it was an effective one.
    Analogy? Noooo. It was a facitiously delivered reductio ad absurdum. It's okay if you didn't like it; it wouldn't be funny if everyone enjoyed it.
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  10. #30
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    Hayward's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Hayward Timberwolf
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    My signature is the answer you're looking for. If you're choosing a job based on numbers people get from a glorified calculator, you're playing the game entirely wrong.
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