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  1. #421
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    DoppelShifter's Avatar
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    Limsa. Don't trust anyone who say Gridania.
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    Kyjal Naddara
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    A funny note for whoever was thinking that the BR and RU player base was far too small to make any kind of difference...

    ...Overnight, the lifetime user review score for FFXIV on steam dropped from 85% to 83%. Might not seem like much at first, but take into account that:
    - This is for lifetime reviews, from 2014 up until now.
    - All of these reviews are actual players who bought the game (you have to be one to be able to post a review)
    - A good chunk of the reviews are from players with hundreds or even thousands of hours of play, so basically veterans
    - This all happened overnight, in less than 12 hours, and the score keeps going down.

    As for their "Recent" score (last 30 days), it has dropped to 56% and keeps lowering. Keep in mind that this time slice includes the bulk of the highly-rated Stormblood (88 on Metacritic).

    Even considering that this is "just" the Steam portion of the PC players, this is no negligible thing, specially considering it happened in such a short notice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    Is this 280 a week? Because at the minimum wage in the USA, people bring home less than that after taxes. Quite a bit less.
    I'm disabled after working for many many years and I get about 120 USD less than you in a month. Just because some of us live in "rich countries" doesn't mean that we are all rich. Also almost 2/3 of my monthly income go to my rent electricity and heat/cooling.
    What Squeenix just pulled on you guys is wrong, but comparing yourselves to "rich countries" has nothing to do with your problem.
    That's a 280 a month, not a week.
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  2. #422
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    Naunet's Avatar
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalatinaCross View Post
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    This is really random but omg you're my twin. xD
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  3. #423
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    Texa Yuu
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    Is this 280 a week?
    That's their monthly minimum wage.
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  4. #424
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    Zarabeth's Avatar
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    Kaylee Frye
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by GTBB View Post
    i bought the game 2 days ago and now i want a refund
    so pls stop with your damage control policy and deal with support ticket
    no way i will deal with SE anymore
    If you bought the game two days ago you should be able to get a refund. I believe the return policy allows you 30 days to return. So stop playing and return it now and you will be able to get your money back.
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  5. #425
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    Zarabeth's Avatar
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    Kaylee Frye
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    That's a 280 a month, not a week.[/QUOTE]

    Ouch, how much does rent and utilities cost there? I could not even live indoor for 280 a month here.
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  6. #426
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    Texa Yuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    Ouch, how much does rent and utilities cost there? I could not even live indoor for 280 a month here.
    A lot of people in Brazil don't have air conditioning or reliable access to electricity or running water in their homes, so that lowers the price of utilities considerably.

    The people who play the game are probably upper or middle class metropolitan residents. But like a high-end income for them would be like $800-600 monthly.
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  7. #427
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    eschaton's Avatar
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    Oxix Lahun
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Twist this any way you like, it is really bad business practice from financial, with just bad ethical accounting practices in the way it has been done.

    The breaking of their own ToS is mind-blowing. Loss of Reputation, loss of human capital and for what? An Excel presentation about projected short-therm gains? Did management even see this change and approach on their desk?

    Ethical business vs maximizing profit; unethical companies are focused on short-term gains in any way, shape or form possible, not caring about (their) people at all, just profit. Textbook stuff really, these short-term profit goals are dwarfed by their longer-term losses.

    All in all unbelievable from the FF company, who ever hired this greed monger should be called to Yoshida for a lesson about good business practices! You are hurting SE very badly!
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  8. #428
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    Goody Doe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    If you bought the game two days ago you should be able to get a refund. I believe the return policy allows you 30 days to return. So stop playing and return it now and you will be able to get your money back.
    i know
    they simply do not respond to a ticket :> thats just annoying
    probably they will change their position cuz of all that bad press but it will not change anything for me
    i liked the game(thats why i cant request a refund on steam :> 20 hours in 2 days) but this attitude towards consumers... meh

    and the most mind blowing thing that i found out about that only cuz of random youtuber who reported this
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    Last edited by GTBB; 07-22-2017 at 01:25 AM.

  9. #429
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    Sam West
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    Gladiator Lv 36
    I am hearing some people saying Yoshida this and that, but I thought Yoshida was just another employee or is he part or the producers? Or the executive directives?

    This peoblem comes from the administration office/department. The big business men and investors are the ones who have the final decisions.
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  10. #430
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    Kaylee Frye
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by GTBB View Post
    i know
    they simply do not respond to a ticket :> thats just annoying
    probably they will change their position cuz of all that bad press but it will not change anything for me
    i liked the game(thats why i cant request a refund on steam :> 20 hours in 2 days) but this attitude towards consumers... meh
    Well that is awful.
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