Dragoon Poll (Should DRG have a Wyvern?)

[giottoV]

Please don't vote for a dragon pet. This isn't ffxi. if they approve of a dragon pet they are going to make dragoon weaker to balance the master-pet damage. Please don't vote.

[AlphaDragoon]

That is incorrect... See below:



It is proven that not only did Dragoons have a relation to Dragons it was also common-place for them to fight alongside Wyverns. The most referenced Dragoon Kain Highwind is the son of one of the FIRST Dragoons in the franchise and he fought alongside a Wyvern.

While it is true when you took control of the characters they did not have one present does not mean they never had them.

Flat out. Did Kain actually HAVE a pet in FFIV?

No. Say no to pets, people.

[Colino]

I'd rather be playing FFXIV Dragoon with the idea that I'm following in the footsteps of Kain Highwind or Freya, not McDragoon Wyvernshumper.

Exactly. When I think Dragoon, I think Kain.

Not pet-dragon hugger XI or some obscure plot characters from FF2.

[Anonymoose]

It is proven that not only did Dragoons have a relation to Dragons it was also common-place for them to fight alongside Wyverns. The most referenced Dragoon Kain Highwind is the son of one of the FIRST Dragoons in the franchise and he fought alongside a Wyvern.

While it is true when you took control of the characters they did not have one present does not mean they never had them.

FFII is terrible evidence, imho. Dragon-riding cavalry fighter is not equal to guy who fights with alongside a baby wyvern that breathes on stuff. Aside from the terminology, those things have absolutely nothing in common; even among FF tradition of Dragoons and their relationships with dragonkind, XI went rogue.

[giottoV]

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong! no single Dragoon in FF history had a wyvern... just in FFXI

You can't even barely call that a wyvern. Its a whelp. ffxi dragoon sucks! it sucked as a DD coz of the pet.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

yeap the only thing I ever really hated about FFXI Dragoon, was that my pet was squishy and when it died....so did 1/3 my damage -.- I had many macros set up to play the abilities how I needed them to, in order to keep my pet alive the longest. spell/healing breath macros, equipment changing/ spirit surge macros, all kinds of creative things, but of course it dies.... and that 20 min time is not up, well I am 1/3 less powerful till that timer is up. Oh and if I am soloing and it dies.... well I am screwed ;p

To implement the Wyvern pet, would be to bring all the bad with it, as it was in FFXI, and I don't want to see a repeat.

[giottoV]

I think that most of all <like> on "I want a gremlins that gimps my job" are no lancers....

Other classes are scared how the drg can be the most cool job in FFXIV.

No We are not scared. Lancer is a cool job as is. It's just We dont want to see another ffxi dragoon. Seriously It's crap. FFxi dragoon already destroyed the real final fantasy dragoon by having a wyvern pet. CID, FREYA, KAIN, richard, kimahri never had dragons or wyvern to fight along side with them. FFXI ruined it coz they thought it'd be cool. as it turned out FFxi dragoon sucked and weak. It sucked as a DD, It sucked in balista it sucked everywhere. so why a repeat? just so some teenager wanted a freakin pet and got attached to its wyvern from ffxi? WTH?

[Keith_Dragoon]

FFII is terrible evidence, imho. Dragon-riding cavalry fighter is not equal to guy who fights with alongside a baby wyvern that breathes on stuff. Aside from the terminology, those things have absolutely nothing in common; even among FF tradition of Dragoons and their relationships with dragonkind, XI went rogue.

You say FFII is a horrible example yet you link me to a post that compares Dragoon to a character from Dynasty Warriors. While I do loooove me some DW i fail to see how that is a better example then actual lore from the same franchise and related to the same job as we are discussing. Most of your points are decent if the Dragoons in FF were taken from the actual real life Dragoon Calvary which it is not.

Dragoon is the english localization of Dragon Knight which was not brought over only for the fact that name lentgh conflicts and Dark Knight exists and you know how we loooove to abbreviate things. Dark Knight and Dragon Knight would both be condensed into D.Knight which is conflicting and could get confusing for some people. While in the lore Dragon knights do ride Dragons and Fight alongside Wyverns they are not mounted calvary who use range weapons named Dragons. the only real similarity is after the Napoleonic Wars they were trained to use lances.

As for Kain himself while he did not fight alongside a Wyvern in FFIV he did care for his father's Dragon who does not physically take place in the game. There is no proof for or against this so its best left in the dark.

[SilvertearRen]

No We are not scared. Lancer is a cool job as is. It's just We dont want to see another ffxi dragoon. Seriously It's crap. FFxi dragoon already destroyed the real final fantasy dragoon by having a wyvern pet. CID, FREYA, KAIN, richard, kimahri never had dragons or wyvern to fight along side with them. FFXI ruined it coz they thought it'd be cool. as it turned out FFxi dragoon sucked and weak. It sucked as a DD, It sucked in balista it sucked everywhere. so why a repeat? just so some teenager wanted a freakin pet and got attached to its wyvern from ffxi? WTH?

I'd post a link to some inappropriate FFXI Dragoon-on-Wyvern imagery to perfectly illustrate this, but we have standards to maintain here. I'll just let you guys have that mental image.

[Keith_Dragoon]

I'd post a link to some inappropriate FFXI Dragoon-on-Wyvern imagery to perfectly illustrate this, but we have standards to maintain here. I'll just let you guys have that mental image.

Oh god please don't, I have mental pictures that can't be unseen now! ; ;