You're still treating SCH like a reactive healer when it's supposed to predominantly mitigate.
You're still treating SCH like a reactive healer when it's supposed to predominantly mitigate.
I will go back to believing that when SE makes it so AST doesn't do that better and cheaper. I don't care if it means AST gets nerfed or SCH gets buffed, but right now AST is by far the better at mitigation. SCH on the other hand has oGCD heals out the wazoo with the new Quickened Aetherflow.
SCH does still have to plan out their heals because Aetherflow is still a limited resource, but we have much more there than before.
Edit for math: The main argument for SCH's place as the mitigation healer seems to be Deployment Tactics. Without a Critlo, Deployment Tactics puts a 300p shield on everyone effected, on a 90sec recast. Compare to NocAST's Acpected Helios. Aspected Helios has a cure potency of 200p, plus the 15% boost from Noct and it comes out to 230p. The Noct shield is 150%, which brings the shield potency up to 345p, and this is on the GCD.
Now it's true that a Critlo Deploy is an 840p shield on everyone, but that's then relying on random crits, which we have no way to guarantee and are far too expensive to fish for now.
Aspected Benefic vs Adlo is even worse, at 575p vs 300p. Even with crits Adlo barely comes out ahead at 805p vs 840p.
(Numbers are assuming a crit multiplier of +40%, which is the most common number I see floated around.)
Last edited by Riyshn; 07-21-2017 at 10:50 PM.
Then you should really be advocating for better mitigation. This is why changes to SCH are often slow or watered down version of what you actually ask for, because you're asking for things not part of the majority of the actual class design. I'm an AST, and whilst having noct stance is great for playing with WHM, I don't feel we should have better mitigation than you do (and more accessible at that; the cd on deployment tactics coupled with succor's cost and being extremely weak on anyone it doesn't crit on is a joke)
I have been, actually. Of the recent buffs, only Miasma II, [something for Fey Union], and [something for Quickened Aetherflow] really made sense as far as fixing problems that job currently has. Emergency Tactics and Indom really didn't need the buffs they got, and while the Excog buff is nice, it doesn't fix the core problem with the skill - it's still a potential wasted stack (For the record, I've been advocating returning it to it's original numbers, but letting it pop as a shield if it times out, so it becomes "tank buster safety net" or "large shield for Deploy that requires 30+ seconds of preplanning and upkeep.")Then you should really be advocating for better mitigation. This is why changes to SCH are often slow or watered down version of what you actually ask for, because you're asking for things not part of the majority of the actual class design. I'm an AST, and whilst having noct stance is great for playing with WHM, I don't feel we should have better mitigation than you do (and more accessible at that; the cd on deployment tactics coupled with succor's cost and being extremely weak on anyone it doesn't crit on is a joke)
And honestly I'm fine if the balance team if moving AST to be the mitigation healer. If that's their vision of the healer role distribution, fine. But I really would like to know what their vision for SCH is, because at the moment we're so all over the place that I honestly can't figure it out.
Selene is still mostly useless outside of fairy-swap openers. Dissipation is better now than it was with an indirect buff from Quickened Aetherflow (With the cooldown reductions on use, Dissipation actually gives you enough stacks that it's hard to use them all in the 30sec that they reduce Aetherflow's CD to), but it's still an ability that is actually actively harmful to use in a lot of situations. Bane's ridiculous falloff (17p per tick on later targets, really?).
Unfortunately the mitigation tools are too expensive now to really use that often, pushing us into support healer. V1S, I only Adlo the off tank when the tank buster is coming and Excog the main tank. Outside of that Adlo, I maybe cast normal Succor 5 times during the battle. ET Succor and Indom are being used far more, and that's big healing, not mitigation.
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