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  1. #161
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    Scarletelf's Avatar
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    Mir'te Notus
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    Behemoth
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xygoz View Post
    I mean they have made it clear scholar is going to stay in the trash for most of if not all of Stormblood, the amount of feedback about what is wrong with scholar is everywhere yet they don't fix the real problems the job has.
    If by trash you mean as efficient as the other healers. SB has the most balanced healer line up as of 4.05. If you don't see "LOOKING FOR HEALER, NOT SCHOLAR" spammed in the pf you know they're still viable in any content. Plus the added side of quickened aetherflow is well... more aetherflow stacks overall, an a consistent 45 second cd to boot. The only way you wont have 45 seconds if you didnt use your stacks to begin with. That hands down is a huge buff for scholars though you can't see it unless in long fights.

    I will not discredit the clunkiness of aetherpact/fey union, but calling the ob as trash is extremely hard when they were forced to share the spotlight this expansion.
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  2. #162
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    Scarletelf's Avatar
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    Mir'te Notus
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    Behemoth
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    My thoughts, I feel that scholars were always meant to be the complicated healer job. I mean they are a scholar, so having stormbloods new toolkit just makes it more pronounced. You can definitely see the bad scholars from the good ones. These buffs helped scholars plainly, while I always thought they were viable in raids they further solidified them in my book. They are sturdy and strategic when they want to be, I think this expansion was meant to highlight more obviously where you stood on the bad/good scholaring tier. Regardless of personal skill, they did have their shortcomings and while I don't feel all were addressed they definitely cured any potential excuse to make them a less than useful healer.
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  3. #163
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    Raja Vamberaux
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    People who think Scholar still has MP problems need to stop using Succor when the party has full HP.
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  4. #164
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    Elleia's Avatar
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    Attica Jurlon
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    Adamantoise
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    Bard Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Spear is better than Chain Strat in what way? Spear increases Crit rate by 20% for one ally, or 10% for all allies... Chain Strat always increases Crit by 15% with none of the extra RNG. Granted Spear increases healibg crit rate, but Chain strat gives everyine +15% on their DPS. Oh wow, Spear lasts 5s longer. So OP.
    Not sure how much of a difference it makes, but this is wrong. Via the patch notes spear is 10% for 20 seconds on one ally and 5% on the party when expanded with royal road. Someone would have to math out how good this is, but I'm seeing that spear doesn't come close to balance in overall dps increase. I'd like to see how it compares to chain strat, however.
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  5. #165
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    I've only completed V1S as of yet, but I've found Scholar to be fun both before and after the changes. Personally, I was worried that the changes would put us back to going afk/dps while fairy done all the healing, but I'm glad to see it hasn't worked like that. After the changes I feel powerful as a healer, especially when executing a strategy well, but I don't feel so overpowered that I'm a green dps
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  6. #166
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    Clouse_Cleyra's Avatar
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    Clouse Cleyras
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    Rafflesia
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I think the first group that cleared V3S had a sch and whm on the group.
    We are on the lowest possible gear for savage right now.
    This just means AST isnt as OP as everyone says, all healers are viable and good well played.
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  7. #167
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    James Dynamite
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarletelf View Post
    My thoughts, I feel that scholars were always meant to be the complicated healer job.
    It honestly doesn't feel like that at all to me now. Feels extremely simple to play because of the cleric changes and how simplified their dps rotation is. Since nothing really hits too hard in normal content and primals (outside of big pulls in dungeons) you'll be dpsing majority of the time. Aside from some aetherflow and shield planning, sch's healing kit is extremely basic. I really wish they would focus on the "shielding" aspect of the job to make it more interesting.
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  8. #168
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elleia View Post
    Not sure how much of a difference it makes, but this is wrong. Via the patch notes spear is 10% for 20 seconds on one ally and 5% on the party when expanded with royal road. Someone would have to math out how good this is, but I'm seeing that spear doesn't come close to balance in overall dps increase. I'd like to see how it compares to chain strat, however.
    Ah, yes. I misread when I quickly went to recheck the Spear Card.

    "The effect of this ability has been changed from "Reduces ability recast time for a party member or self by 20% for 20 seconds" to "Increases the critical hit rate for a party member or self by 10% for 20 seconds.""

    I thought the first part was the Crit Rate. My bad?

    It just further proves my point that Spear is a poor man's Chain Strat so... It's not better than Chain Strat i any way what-so-ever. So pointing out I was wrong didn't really add to the conversation... >_>
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  9. #169
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    Ema Voilerclaire
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersun View Post
    Honestly I think they are shifting Scholar away from a mitigation healer to a free HoT healer.
    And yet the fairies have never been weaker.
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  10. #170
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    Attica Jurlon
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    Adamantoise
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    Bard Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Ah, yes. I misread when I quickly went to recheck the Spear Card.

    "The effect of this ability has been changed from "Reduces ability recast time for a party member or self by 20% for 20 seconds" to "Increases the critical hit rate for a party member or self by 10% for 20 seconds.""

    I thought the first part was the Crit Rate. My bad?

    It just further proves my point that Spear is a poor man's Chain Strat so... It's not better than Chain Strat i any way what-so-ever. So pointing out I was wrong didn't really add to the conversation... >_>
    Sorry, just wanted to fix the numbers there - but I guess I should have responded to the person who said spear was better than chain strat as well. Wasn't trying to say your point was wrong, just that the numbers were and it's far weaker than chain strategem at only 5% for the party rather than 15%.
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