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  1. #71
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    So I just tried out Plenary Indulgence in savage, and I have to say, it's actually really really good.
    There's enough constant AOE damage going out to make ample use of it. I used it after Medica II+ Medica to almost always benefit from the 300 pot heal. I even got 3 stacks at a few points and healed everyone enough to make myself comfortable.

    There's really only one thing wrong with it, and that's the duration. It should be back to 30 seconds, or at least 20 seconds. 10 seconds is really short, and while I still find many uses for it, it does make I feel clunky.

    Still, this is the best thing that could have happened to Plenary Indulgence. WHM is very close to actually being a pure healer for the first time since HW!
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  2. #72
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    Pho Lover
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I wanted to play the game first before giving a feed back.

    After playing the new content:
    I find myself using PI very often in the high-end content. Even with lower potency, it's really good.
    Lilies are manageable now.

    I love the new change. Though, I still don't use divine benison.
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  3. #73
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    Iris'li Lokspuhr
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I was only able to use Plenary Indulgence twice during Deltascape V1.0. My co-healer kept healing everyone up to full with Indomitability, so it was near impossible to get the stacks up except after Charbdys. That 10 second timer on the Confessions is a joke. It's like they didn't even test it first, and just thought since it's a 100% proc rate now it would be too overpowered. I was using it more before, in 4-man content no less. Now I just sit there and watch the confessions tick down and fade away.
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  4. #74
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    Ihza Mhaskova
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    Exodus
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcakesu View Post
    I feel like everyone who is complaining about Confession duration is not understanding how they want PI to be used. They don\\'t want you saving confession stacks. They are that short in duration because they want you to use PI immediately after Medica/II casts. PI is not another Assize to freely heal the party every now and then when stacks get high. It\\'s there as extra healing potency on spells you\\'re going to cast anyway. And you don\\'t need 3 Confession stacks to make it useful. An additional 150 potency on your Medica is already a noticeable and free increase, and the cooldown makes it so it\\'s likely to be around for almost every AoE healing situation you\\'ll need it for.

    Seriously guys, just because you CAN achieve 3 stacks doesn\\'t mean you need to.
    If that is the case Plenary Indulgence is nothing but unnecessary bloat and should be removed for potency buffs to the healing moves it procs from.
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  5. #75
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    Ihza Mhaskova
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    Why is no one mentioning the abysmal recast time?

    3x stacks is 450 potency.

    Know what else is 450 potency? Cure I.

    So, SE expects us to spam aoe healing 3x times in a row for a Cure I equivalent?

    On a 60s recast?

    It's clear they have no clue what they are doing with WHM and that they didn't go into detail before the patch because they knew they would get this response.

    Better to do something and ask for forgiveness than ask beforehand, am I right?
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  6. #76
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    Verdan Lankost
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    Goblin
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    Carpenter Lv 70
    Bad duration, bad recast time. If it's a pocket AoE heal, you should be able to hold on to it for longer than 10 seconds. If it's burst after an AoE heal, it shouldn't be so dang long to recharge cause we already have a minute burst.
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  7. #77
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by IhzaMhaskova View Post
    Know what else is 450 potency? Cure I.
    And how many GCDs is it to cast Cure on everyone? 8. How many is it for PI? 0.
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  8. #78
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Tried it out.
    Skill is still white hot trash.
    It does NOTHING WHM doesn't already do without it. There hasn't been a moment, even in the new savage that I found it to be even remotely helpful because 9/10 times, everyone was already back to full health and even when I'm able to a use the skill, it's so weak it doesn't even do a dent in people's health.

    I honestly preferred the original skill (minus the RNG) because at least then it had a chance of being up when I needed it and was an actual heal instead of this lackluster ability
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    Last edited by Silver-Strider; 07-19-2017 at 05:58 AM.

  9. #79
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    Ihza Mhaskova
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    And how many GCDs is it to cast Cure on everyone? 8. How many is it for PI? 0.
    No retort for anything else in the post?
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  10. #80
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    Verdan Lankost
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivxkobe View Post
    Well, you don't have to. But essentially yes. In most situations it will be used after one AoE heal. But there are instances, and there may be more to come in the future, when you'll get more stacks. And honestly, 150 potency buff to AoE healing isn't bad, its not great but its definitely better than this "pocket heal" you are almost on the verge of defending.
    What I was sayin' was that they had no idea what they wanted the skill to be. In its previous incarnation, it was a thing that would pop up randomly, and you could then go "oh, I can heal this person for free if I have to." Was it good? No! The chance was way too low, it didn't come from enough things, and it didn't last long enough. But the design of the skill was that you'd build up these confessions as free healing that you could save until you wanted them. That's why the cooldown was low and the duration relatively long.

    Now, they're added burst at the end of your AoE healing. It's a totally different design, which says they didn't have much of an idea of what they wanted the skill to be. It'd be like if they changed Foul into a single target spell that restored all mana. Or if they switched fell cleave into a defense buff. Or if they made Holy Spirit a Dot. They didn't want to give us a pocket heal that was built up by single target healing, they wanted to give us a level 70 skill.
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    Last edited by Verdan; 07-19-2017 at 05:56 AM.

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