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  1. #1
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100

    Plenary Indulgence was THIS close to being good.

    They made it 100%. They made it proc off of AOE healing! Just what we all wanted!

    And then they deleted the option of using Cure I/II for confession gathering, butchered the potency and drastically reduced it's duration so that you either use it directly after AOE healing or not at all.

    Jesus, they really don't know what they're doing with WHM do they.

    Now don't get me wrong. It'll definitely see more use than it did before, but it's still a useless heal. By the time you use 3 AOE heals, everyones at full HP. They're not going to need a 450 potency heal after that. Which means that plenary is, at it's very best, another medica on a 60s CD.

    There was no reason to nerf confession duration this hard. If something as strong as Balance (which was nerfed thank God) can last up to 40 seconds, can't we have 20 second confession stacks?

    It feels like SE took one step forward and two steps back with WHM.
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I hope that Omega Savage have some high aoe damages to justify plenary indulgence to become this.
    Otherwise, it would be useless.

    No one need 4 aoe heals one after an other to heal the party at full, especially when you have 2 healer.
    So... before saying anything, I want to see how savage first.
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    Indo Xi
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 77
    I agree. This with the scholar changes solidifies the continuation of AST/SCH meta. AST will have more utility, better burst AoE healing with CDs and higher potency spells across the board.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I think it'll do great. This ability could have absolutely trivialized a11s phase 3.

    Medica II before photon. 1 stack.
    Precast Cure III/Medica. 2 stacks.
    Swiftcast. Cure III/Medica. 3 stacks.
    Ogcd weave assize/PI.

    I feel WHM will become the first to solo heal the savage raids, pushing their coheal out for a dps many ilevels before even ast at this point.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 07-18-2017 at 03:30 PM.

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    Cupcakesu's Avatar
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    Tomoyo Nellu
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I feel like everyone who is complaining about Confession duration is not understanding how they want PI to be used. They don't want you saving confession stacks. They are that short in duration because they want you to use PI immediately after Medica/II casts. PI is not another Assize to freely heal the party every now and then when stacks get high. It's there as extra healing potency on spells you're going to cast anyway. And you don't need 3 Confession stacks to make it useful. An additional 150 potency on your Medica is already a noticeable and free increase, and the cooldown makes it so it's likely to be around for almost every AoE healing situation you'll need it for.

    Seriously guys, just because you CAN achieve 3 stacks doesn't mean you need to.

    EDIT: That said, the skill is still niche. I don't think there's much in the way of content that really needs all the extra AoE healing. However there's still so much more to come, and SE knows what mechanics they have designed. We don't.
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    Last edited by Cupcakesu; 07-18-2017 at 03:32 PM.

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    Atlantasia Azoria
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 80
    What I'd like to see:
    - Remove confessions entirely and make PI go off of Lilies instead.
    - Make our new shield only use ONE lily.
    - Make all our GCD heal spells proc lilies.

    Vola, healy WHM that can solo heal content so well that if you're relatively skilled you can bring a 5th DPS.

    I don't think they needed to nerf AST, I think they needed to just bring the other two up to it's level. >__<;
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    Kethic Zachrias
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    There are mechanics in Lak and Sus that could easily make use of PI in it's new form. It's certainly much more useful now. I'll take any improvement at this point.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Completely agree. I'm just glad we got the boost to heals and dps or we would be in a sorry state, because our new abilities are only really good for "Oh, that's up. Guess I'll use it" instead of trying to plan them strategically.
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  9. #9
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I expect heavy AoE healing in savage to actually be able to get 3 stacks of confession and still warrant actually using the skill.
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    Edda Eglantine
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    Balmung
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    Botanist Lv 90
    The only scenario in which this change would be marginally useful is if SE has planned for a particular Omega Savage turn to be farmable through enrage ala Turn 2.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcakesu View Post
    Seriously guys, just because you CAN achieve 3 stacks doesn't mean you need to.
    Then why keep the stacking mechanic in? Why not just make it only a single stack buff with a flat potency all the time every time? It just seems superfluous now, given the 10 second drop off.
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    Last edited by fantasticm; 07-18-2017 at 03:34 PM.

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