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  1. #11
    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Character
    Teladi Bishop
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieTiger View Post
    I't not fair SE says MCH and BRD need to stay in balance... but bards have their DoTs... and personaly I think MCH is more dificult, jobs like that deserve better DPS for the effort.
    How hard a class plays should never be balance on how much dps you do. It is about if you enjoy how the class plays or not. Devs clearly said tougher means more dps is not the way they want to do things.
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  2. #12
    Player
    MomoOG's Avatar
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    Character
    Vicas Windwalker
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post

    The CD reduction of Barrel Stabilizer are nice - for skilled MCHs, that means they could overheat every Wildfire. For less skilled MCHs, it allows them more leeway to fuck up with overheat. Great!
    Barrel Stabilizer change would be meaningful if overheat on wildfire actually amounted to anything. Overheated wildfires breaks pretty even with a rotation that doesn't overheat at all. They needed to at least buff overheat to 20%.
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  3. #13
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    CosmicKirby's Avatar
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    Character
    Lulumia Lumia
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    I think what's more hilarious is that Quick Reload is now a net nerf from Heavensward.

    Quick Reload was clearly problematic.
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  4. #14
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    Zeonsilt's Avatar
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    Character
    Evan Lionheart
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    3% more Hotshot DPS increase Vs decreased CD usage and dumbed down rotation. (i feel like they overdid it)
    Not what i expected from "and more".
    My test/quick run with random DF group Delta V1.0 without Dex Pots and Food at 3600 DPS. Not bad, but it's not on Bard level (3900).
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    Last edited by Zeonsilt; 07-19-2017 at 12:49 AM.

  5. #15
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    Ferrasper's Avatar
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    Character
    Doctor Fumbles
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    Even though my MCH is only lv66, even I was questioning the reduced heat on the 1-2-3. Keeping the gauge between 50 and 100 was fun for me and easy to maintain for non WF times. With this change though, I am not sure anymore.
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  6. #16
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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    How hard a class plays should never be balance on how much dps you do. It is about if you enjoy how the class plays or not. Devs clearly said tougher means more dps is not the way they want to do things.
    And as a result, BLM, SMN, and now seemingly even MCH is now dead in the water. No one wants to put in extra effort without an equal reward, and the harder to play classes are clearly sub-par to their more simplistic counterparts in BRD/RDM.

    No one wins with a mindset like that. Hell, for the first time since 3.0 I'm seriously considering leaving my main MCH behind! I don't even know what job to main now.
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 07-19-2017 at 01:16 AM.

  7. #17
    Player
    Seisha's Avatar
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    Character
    Otsu Komachi
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Not sure about dps increase or numbers as I am on console and can't parse, but the heat reduction feels better to me. It is much harder to accidentally overheat now, and staying in the 50>95 sweet spot is easier. 60 sec BS is also great. Making sure it is always available when you need it.
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  8. #18
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    FaileExperiment's Avatar
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    Character
    Vash Warbreaker
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 72
    As a MCH main, i won't say "no" to these changes. It's some small QoL changes. But from testing, they barely make any DPS increase. Is SE seriously saying this DPS is where they want MCH to be?

    SE, if all we're doing is QoL changes for MCH, I have two more:
    1) When Gauss Barrel overheats, just disable the function. Don't unequip it. Function should automatically return with the barrel cools down
    2) When we overload Rook and Bishop, don't despawn the turrets. Leave them as is an just disable their function. You can add a little "malfunction" animation, with a bit of smoke, so let us know visually it's out of commission. But don't make us have to summon and re-position the turret again. When the turret is repaired, just let it automatically resume function.
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    Last edited by FaileExperiment; 07-19-2017 at 03:03 AM. Reason: can't grammar good

  9. #19
    Player
    Dianoia's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Red River
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seisha View Post
    Not sure about dps increase or numbers as I am on console and can't parse, but the heat reduction feels better to me. It is much harder to accidentally overheat now, and staying in the 50>95 sweet spot is easier. 60 sec BS is also great. Making sure it is always available when you need it.
    Right there with you. I wish we did more damage, but it's not going to keep me from getting content done. I didn't enjoy micro-managing my heat. To me, the changes to heat generation/overheating are very welcome.
    I think this is the best MCH has ever played.

    My only wishes at this point is for a little more damage. At least at or above BRD.
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  10. #20
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    Jimsvaliant's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    James Malice
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    And as a result, BLM, SMN, and now seemingly even MCH is now dead in the water.
    Uhh BLM was far from dead in the water and with the recent changes they're pretty well off.
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