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    RyuujinZERO's Avatar
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    K'hali Thalen
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 71
    "Yeah, I understand the argument. With Dual Cast and the kind of healing they can do. When both healers are down and the Red Mage waltz in and saves the day. But, listen, Summoner players, listen okay? Red Mage can raise, okay? And Black Mage, nothing, okay? That's why we have jobs, okay?"
    I have to wonder... if the logic was that SMN should never use their heal spell; why give SMN a heal spell at all?

    I mean the entire mantra of 4.0 has been "reduce the clutter, consolidate the skills"; and yet here, one of SMN's precious skill list entries contains a skill that is literally unusable. And this apparently came at the cost of Sustain, which was the SMN's pet heal skill and thus very important and relevant!

    If the heal is there on behalf of SCH, why not just add it to the SCH spell list? - It's not like ACN can queue as healer anyway.
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    Kit-Kat's Avatar
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    Ayleen Estheim
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO View Post
    If the heal is there on behalf of SCH, why not just add it to the SCH spell list? - It's not like ACN can queue as healer anyway.
    Because low level content exists, and SCH gets synced down. You want a healer in your run without heals and raise? Healers get their main important tools at low level for a reason. And they can't remove it from SMN's list without hurting SCH, and they can't move it to SCH's job spells instead of base class without screwing SCH over.
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    Last edited by Kit-Kat; 07-20-2017 at 10:19 AM.

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    Roda's Avatar
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    Roda Tirhaalo
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kit-Kat View Post
    Because low level content exists, and SCH gets synced down. You want a healer in your run without heals and raise? Healers get their main important tools at low level for a reason. And they can't remove it from SMN's list without hurting SCH, and they can't move it to SCH's job spells instead of base class without screwing SCH over.
    I mean, jobs that start at 30/50 have their job skills listed as being acquired at lower levels so they can participate in synced content. I don't see why SCH can't have the same
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    Claviusnex's Avatar
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kit-Kat View Post
    Because low level content exists, and SCH gets synced down. You want a healer in your run without heals and raise? Healers get their main important tools at low level for a reason. And they can't remove it from SMN's list without hurting SCH, and they can't move it to SCH's job spells instead of base class without screwing SCH over.
    Sure they can. All SE needs to do is change Physick to Sustain at level 30 when you pick Summoner path. When running lower level content where Physick is effective switch it back. Nothing new if you look at how Bio and Miasma work in 4.0 with II and III sharing the same buttons.
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