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  1. #41
    Player
    Synrin's Avatar
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    Mel Az
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    Which was, essentially, the stated goal of job changes for Stormblood.
    Shame, it just gets more and more braindead.
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  2. #42
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    Leigaon's Avatar
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    Zara Diaspora
    World
    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Caduagm View Post
    But we did? it was the dps WITH THE MOST COMPLAINS in this forum. We complained for a month and we got basically nothing.
    If you did it properly you could have probably gotten somewhere, then again..when worded like this..much like the others.

    So, since we didn't get anything this time around what is the average DPS for a SMN @ 70 currently? Or average excluding the newest gear. Maybe pray for the best next time around and let them see the results via savage, then they can adjust there.
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  3. #43
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    Character
    Kuro Moon
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    well this really blows. As my dps main is a smn'r, i refuse to give up on the class.....but they are making it rough....really reaaaallllyy rough
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    Kuro Moon
    BLM-AST-DRK ////Omni Crafter//

  4. #44
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    KfLeX's Avatar
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    Character
    Lola Milila
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    I was thinking about this, wondering if they are slowly making players less interested in playing it and eventually going to delete the job. I hope not though I love summoner
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  5. #45
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    snipe
    I get your point, not playing SMN myself because it does not feel like SMN to me but more cute necro.
    My post was for people who actually love oplaying it the way it is but might be scared about people's opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  6. #46
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    ToasterMan's Avatar
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    Yui Oshima
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    Mateus
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    Blacksmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Voltron_HD View Post
    well this really blows. As my dps main is a smn'r, i refuse to give up on the class.....but they are making it rough....really reaaaallllyy rough
    If you don't like how a job is right now, I highly recommend that you switch. Staying on SMN will only make SE think that the job is it. I switched from WHM when I knew that it wasn't going to have it's problems addressed. My WHM is still rotting at 60 and will stay that way for a long time
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  7. #47
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterMan View Post
    If you don't like how a job is right now, I highly recommend that you switch. Staying on SMN will only make SE think that the job is it. I switched from WHM when I knew that it wasn't going to have it's problems addressed. My WHM is still rotting at 60 and will stay that way for a long time
    Mm.

    I did the same thing with MCH.
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  8. #48
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    Bruce Banner
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 57
    for me , SMN is still fine , i just want the sustain back

    missed rotations aren't really a thing if you dont play savage content
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  9. #49
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    Character
    Ertai Spelldragon
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    It's not like the couldn't fix sustain for summoner, they just didn't want to. They don't see why summoner needs it. As far as "now I am going to be kicked from every raid!" I don't think the raid community is that bad as you paint it. A lot of them are laid back.

    As far as other developers have told me in other game forums, you can't just resolve every issue right away. You have to look at it carefully and make sure that these fixes don't snow all into more problems by making a class over powered or underpowered. I am sure they will address the damage in time. I do acknowledge summoner is going through a problem. I am not turning an eye away from the glaring issues.
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  10. #50
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    Len Orlan
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KfLeX View Post
    I was thinking about this, wondering if they are slowly making players less interested in playing it and eventually going to delete the job. I hope not though I love summoner
    That's when I permanently unsubscribe from this game and never look back.

    The developers need to dig deep and make Summoner & Scholar a priority for total revamps in 5.0.
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