[Scholar] Its time we talk about Selene

[Rawrz]

Not that it matters, but this is what i want from Scholar direction wise with fairy and others.


Dissipation: Orders your pet away while granting you a full Aetherflow stack.
Also grants a buff that increases healing magic potency by 20%. Your next Summon or Summon II is instant cast. Buff ends after 30 seconds or when your next Summon or Summon II is cast. Aetherflow spent while in dissipation will fill fairy gage at a rate of 20 instead of 10. Using aetherflow outside of a fairy summoned or dissipation will have no effect on the gauge.

Fey Union:

When active with Eos All party members within 10 yalms receive 200 potency in healing every 3 seconds . A buff is placed on all members within range increasing spell based healing potency by 10%, which ends as fey union does. Fey union remains unaffected as an ability.

While Selene is active 350 potency every 3 seconds to a single target within 15 yalms. A buff is placed on that party member reducing damage taken by 10%.

Fairys:

Eos:
Fey illumination returned to 20%.

Selene: Fey Charm-Silent Dusk no longer applies Silence, instead it places an 8 second magic vulnerability down on a single target and is called Fey Charm. Cool down of 90 seconds.
Fey wind buffed to 5% speed increase.


Non Fairy Changes

Healing perspective:

Adloquiem: MP cost reduced, spell is made instant cast or Potency is increased.

Deployment Tactics: resets the duration of galvanize and Eye for an Eye and then spreads it as original effect does.

Rouse: Increases healing magic potency and damage dealt by pet by 40%. Pet is restored to max HP. While roused, pet will be immune to Stun, Sleep, Bind, and Heavy.
Duration: 20s- This change is to mostly help SMNs, but some people miss sustain e.e.

DPS changes:

Bane: Also spreads Chain Strategum. 15% chance to reset its duration on the mobs hit.

Emergency Tactics: Transforms the next Galvanize status into HP recovery equaling the amount of damage reduction intended for the barrier or transforms your next Bio II or Miasma into a front loaded effect of 350 potency or 300 potency respectively. Will not apply the debuff, but instead do the entire damage up front.

Broil: Cast time reduced to 2 seconds. Recast remains 2.5.

ROLE CHANGE FOR ALL CASTERS AND HEALERS:

Break: cast time 2 seconds. Recast 2.5. MP cost equal to 1.33x Broil II. Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 60-80 to target and all nearby targets.
Additional Effect: Heavy +20%
Duration: 15s [If new miasma ii has a spammable base potency over 65, I'll take it]

Helps all classes who do not get aoe until higher level but will often be inefficient once their new aoe is gained: Holy and Gravity as examples.


All of these changes together, would probably make the job a bit much, but a few of these changes would go a long way, causing SCH to want to fairy swap, curbs SCHS dps boredom and strengthens SCHs base utilities. These sort of changes could get me healing again.

[Neela]

Yes, let's give a 10% party DPS boost to Scholar after they just took one away from AST. Sounds brilliant.

uhm the ast change from -cd to +crit is something which shouldn't be done anyway... the crit stat itself has a way deeper meaning to schs than to asts. now ast as well got the only buff which were schs good for with 4.0 referring to grp-dps increase -> one point more to take ast over sch and leaving the fairy-whistler at home now... so please don't complain bout sch buffs here or buff ideas which won't effect asts at all there is nothing special to whm/sch at all anymore... oh I forgot its asts identity to be better than whm & sch in all areas isnt it? ._____.

Selene should get useful again but it's hard to overcome eos aoe heal... what would be equivalent or more useful (in endgame) than eos?

[Indiction]

I have no problem with her AoE Esuna, but her other skills....way too weak to even matter.

A 3% speed buff can't compare to an AoE regen, a healing % buff, and a magic % def buff. It just can't. Faeries (and summons in general) in this game are far too unresponsive to put something as critical (or even just as on-the-fly) as a silence or stun. The hit time has too much variance for it to be reliable. With Eos, you can use her skills to your advantage (and cohealer's advantage) and more than make up the dps for whatever 3% speed would give the party.

A buff that increases shields placed on party members, a self-pet buff that changes a % of her embrace heals to a shield, literally anything that could play into that utility and dps theme selene. With Fey Wind, do something else. It's so neligible, and selene is honestly so underwhelming you could put her on sic and have her do her own thing and really barely notice it.

[Deceptus]

Selene is traditionally the buff fairy. The problem is, her buff is/are weak compared to Eos. She has a silence, which due to wonky fairy AI, isn't reliable AT ALL. Same with Esuna unless whatever debuff needs cleansed is over 10s. She can't reliable cleanse anything less than that.

Her whole identity needs to be changed.

She needs to become the AOE healing fairy (much akin to MCH AOE turret).

When Fey Union (FU) is pressed, she needs to pulse AOE healing while Eos can pulse single target.

Whispering Dawn needs to go to Selene and Eos needs a ST low pot Regen.

[ChairGlue]

Actually, they just took a 20% buff away and replaced it with a 10%, and a new different 10% buff.

That new 10% is Crit. Ran some napkin maths and it's around 2% increase to damage-per-minute (including randomness of draws). Chain Strategm is around 3%. I'm not impressed.

[Cupcakesu]

uhm the ast change from -cd to +crit is something which shouldn't be done anyway... the crit stat itself has a way deeper meaning to schs than to asts. now ast as well got the only buff which were schs good for with 4.0 referring to grp-dps increase -> one point more to take ast over sch and leaving the fairy-whistler at home now... so please don't complain bout sch buffs here or buff ideas which won't effect asts at all there is nothing special to whm/sch at all anymore... oh I forgot its asts identity to be better than whm & sch in all areas isnt it? ._____.

Selene should get useful again but it's hard to overcome eos aoe heal... what would be equivalent or more useful (in endgame) than eos?

I'm not complaining about Scholar buffs. Fun fact, I play every Healer, so I don't want any of them to feel useless. I'm just saying giving Scholar a 10% AoE boost to DPS when AST just lost theirs because it was OP doesn't seem like a good idea. Suddenly Scholar will be the mandatory Healer again, just like they were throughout all of 3.0 (especially since Fey Wind is not RNG and has a 30s duration on a 60s cooldown).

Funny that Scholars are now getting sassy and pointing the finger at AST as having an "identity" of being better than its competitors when they were OP for like 1 raid tier. Scholar has a HISTORY of being overpowered and just now, for the first time since their release, are underperforming.

[Feidam]

That new 10% is Crit. Ran some napkin maths and it's around 2% increase to damage-per-minute (including randomness of draws). Chain Strategm is around 3%. I'm not impressed.

It is still a decent buff to Ast. Overpowered? No but it took a useless card and gave one in return that will boost dps. So now the Ast has three options for boosting dps and two of those options help healers as well. I think the new spear is a good thing for Ast but I love how people are all poopoo about it. Even with the potency changes to the buffs Ast don't really have much room to complain. They are in a really good position.

[Cynfael]

I agree that Selene has moved out of focus. Part of this has to do with the normal life cycle of a major expansion, where we don't grossly overgear the content and see more value in Eos' defensive and healing capabilities; the other part is that Selene has become kind of...lame.

Her signature buff is still fairly unimpressive, her AoE Esuna is a cool ability that is rarely useful in practice, and her Silence is incredibly niche because of pet AI lack of instant responsiveness to player commands. Even back in 2.x we only really used her because Eos was just that unnecessary for most things; her buffs weren't all that amazing, but they were preferable to both overhealing and nothing.

[Lildragora]

After thinking about the AST vs SCH shield argument I have come to a personal conclusion that I was just buthurt over the higher potencies for shields. In terms of a Noct Ast vs a SCH I want to say overall the SCH has more healing options available to them, its just not as spammable. Again this is a personal conclusion. SCH still has more mitigation tools at their disposal.

Dissipation: The same except a instant cast fairy proc is active while dissipation is up. Effect of Dissipation ends upon use of fairy summon or until timer runs out
Fey Wind: Buff to 5%
Silent Dusk: Make it Bloody/Shimmering Dusk for a aoe bleed/dmg reduction. One of the two
Indom: Bring back down to 400 potency
Sacred Soil: 45s/60s CD for a 15%/20% reduction instead of costing AF (its even lower on priorities due to indom buff so what the heck?) If it MUST cost AF, increase the CD on it drastically as well as the mitigation it provides making it our super situational 1 or maybe 2 times use per fight tool. Ballpark numbers from a non balanced perspective to get the idea caps rolling on this one, 3m CD for a 60% reduction to all incoming damage for 15s

[Lildragora]

her AoE Esuna is a cool ability that is rarely useful in practice

King Mog EX, for the tethers when you gotta esuna the parties status or they died (when it was relevant)
Omega 4, could be used to Esuna the party without needing healers to stop healing or DPS'ing.

I agree its niche, but for those moments it is incredibly useful and can be a good DPS or HPS gain over manual Esuna.