DRK - Teach me when/how/where/why to use The Blackest Night

[Shinkyo]

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Keep in mind that TBN is only a slight DPS gain if you always pop the shield and get your 50 gauge. The DPS increase is very small if you pop it consistently but if you don't the dps loss is rather significant.
Compare the following scenarios:
- 3 BS outside of grit fueled by TBN = 1200 potency for 7200MP
- a full Soul Eater combos with 2 DA= 950 potency for 3600MP (4800 for 2 DA and you get 1200 back from Syphon Strike)

Now the 3600MP difference means that you'll get to do 1.5 DA later with translate into 210 oGCD potency later (1 DA = 140 potency), putting the 3 BS at 1200 vs 1160 potency from the SE combos.
A small potency gain but at the risk of losing a lot more if you don't pop shield.

[bswpayton]

Keep in mind that TBN is only a slight DPS gain if you always pop the shield and get your 50 gauge. The DPS increase is very small if you pop it consistently but if you don't the dps loss is rather significant.
Compare the following scenarios:
- 3 BS outside of grit fueled by TBN = 1200 potency for 7200.

Im totally confused but I have 6 levels to 70 my plan with Blackest Knight was to just use it as a df cool down which was gona be often sense it can be used every 15 seconds would I lose dps using it this way?

[ManuelBravo]

Keep in mind that TBN is only a slight DPS gain if you always pop the shield and get your 50 gauge. The DPS increase is very small if you pop it consistently but if you don't the dps loss is rather significant.
Compare the following scenarios:....
A small potency gain but at the risk of losing a lot more if you don't pop shield.

Not sure how you get it to work, but when I pop it I get from min30-50 based on DMG during that time. I do large pulls on dungeons, and on bosses almost always get 50. Then again this is used to do quick charges and only use Dark arts for Dark mind or Abyssal Drain. Otherwise I tend to make the job of my healer easy for them during Bosses. Everyone has their own style so it really depends on what your using it for. I've been told it's a bug because everyone's damage goes down except my own. Even after explanation people still don't believe it. Dark arts + Dark mind + Darkest = almost 100% dmg null for most magic based attacks and fast gauge charge. At least just one way of using it. While yes you could use it on the offensive I rather make it for my healer if I can onlarge pull. being I've played healer as well.

Note depending on play style ,stats and updates

[ManuelBravo]

Im totally confused but I have 6 levels to 70 my plan with Blackest Knight was to just use it as a df cool down which was gona be often sense it can be used every 15 seconds would I lose dps using it this way?

You will understand once you have it. For now get to 70,unlock it then ask questions :P It will be less confusing that way.

[Shinkyo]

Im totally confused but I have 6 levels to 70 my plan with Blackest Knight was to just use it as a df cool down which was gona be often sense it can be used every 15 seconds would I lose dps using it this way?

It all depends if you can time TBN correctly for the shield to break within the 5 sec duration.
For the most part, it's not difficult to break it but it's happened that I use it when the boss starts a long cast/jump/phase swift resulting in the shield to be wasted.
Anytime the shield doesn't break and you don't get 50 gauge from it, it's a DPS loss.

[Shinkyo]

Not sure how you get it to work, but when I pop it I get from min30-50 based on DMG during that time

Well the question was about using TBN as a DPS gain which implies that you try to do it as much as possible on cooldown. If you using outside of tank busters, you take the risk of the shield not breaking and thus get no dps gain in return. Usually, 2 auto attacks from boss is enough to break it but your TBN timing can be off and the shield expires before the 2nd auto.
Also, TBN gives 50 gauge when the shield breaks, nothing otherwise. There's no scaling from the absorbed damage that would make you get 30 gauge.

[ManuelBravo]

Well the question was about using TBN as a DPS gain which implies that you try to do it as much as possible on cooldown. If you using outside of tank busters, you take the risk of the shield not breaking and thus get no dps gain in return. Usually, 2 auto attacks from boss is enough to break it but your TBN timing can be off and the shield expires before the 2nd auto.
Also, TBN gives 50 gauge when the shield breaks, nothing otherwise. There's no scaling from the absorbed damage that would make you get 30 gauge.

So in some other words you and I see it differently, use it differently, and benefit from it differently. Thx for the input.

[Shinkyo]

So in some other words you and I see it differently, use it differently, and benefit from it differently. Thx for the input.

It's not about seeing it differently and there's nothing wrong with how you're using it.
I'm just responding in the perspective of the OP, i.e. use of TBN as a dps gain.

[Rbstr]

If you are actively tanking it's pretty much a no brainer to use TBN whenever you are pretty certain the shield will break. It's a lot of mitigation on a short cooldown, besides being a DPS increase in grit. You should be able to use it in such a way that it will be ready to cover tankbusters in addition to some general usage. 20 seconds is a short CD, don't waste the skill holding onto it for a very long time.

Not sure how you get it to work, but when I pop it I get from min30-50 based on DMG during that time.

TBN, if it breaks, will always give 50 Blood Gauge. If the shield does not break you will get nothing.There are no other options.
The only time you would "get" only 30 gauge is if you were already in possession of 70 gauge and you overflowed - Then you've simply wasted 20 points.