Pet = 1 party member, 8 members total.

[Irondude]

first of all, kind of selfish to want to constantly take up 2 spots in a party. second of all dragoons solo play would be way overpowered. that is all.

I feel like your missing the point. Everyone will have some sort of companion/pet. Dragoons will just be the only ones that can use Dragons as a pet. Nobody expects you to use your pet in a party. IF another player can't be found you can use a pet as a fill in. If a Dragoon is in the party you have the option to use a dragoon as a pet instead of just a chocobo or companion.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

That's cool, it' the idea " i don't want to be nerfed because i have a pet, so i want an overpower job with an overpower pet who count as a people" to be bad.

[Felis]

If a Dragoon is in the party you have the option to use a dragoon as a pet instead of just a chocobo or companion.

Hmm, a Dragoon as pet/slave? I like it
Chocobos would be seen as party member, because everybody would have a chocobo.
Don't think the same could be with job exclusive pets

[AceofRains]

if you take a 7 man party in to an ifrit fight and summon a pet as the 8th you deserve to have it die
> :- D

Lol I was just about to post this. What the op says is actually reflected here. I like the idea of pets taking up a party spot. I for one would like drg to have a pet, but if you don't need that party member, dont use the pet, this way you wouldn't have to nerf drgs power. Also a pet with a well developed AI can be just as good as having another player, especially if the original player has control, it's can make for some beastly tactical combos. In this sense I'm actually in favor of pets having separate levels from your character.

[Irondude]

Translation from Reinheart:
* The one without last name is each PC’s buddy
* 1 buddy can be called per P, if there are 2 PC and they call their buddies can form a 4 player Light Party

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post427830

O.O oh hell yeah. Thank you for finding that info Felis!

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

So in 8 member party scenarios you're asking a beastmaster to play without a beast pet, a summoner not to use summons. While your at it just tell the whm not to cure, and the bard not to use songs.


No. Just no.

[AceofRains]

The idea to have a place in party stealed by something without a brain is bull****. How can you tell a pet to get out from radiant plum on ifrit ?

Simply add a shift click feature for moving your pet. This would be a problem for gamepad users, but I'm sure there's some way to map pet shift movement to the controls.

[Shneibel]

Instead of recalculating damage for a pet, make it an additional party member with an HP bar and target-able. Obviously an actual PC will always be better, but sometimes people DC or you can't find that 8th person. This would be a way to fill in the party.

Nobody has to be nerfed. 4 people can become an 8 man party, but an actual 8 man party will always be a better fit, because pet's don't fully fill in for a person.

in your theory:

4 ppl + 4 pet = 8 men pt and cant add more player and always 8 source dmg

in the current develope system

4 ppl + 4 pet = 4 men pt and can add more, which lead to 8 ppl + 8 pet = 16 source of dmg

which is better ?

the quote under is a problem as well

So in 8 member party scenarios you're asking a beastmaster to play without a beast pet, a summoner not to use summons. While your at it just tell the whm not to cure, and the bard not to use songs.


No. Just no.

+1 for no vote

[Irondude]

So in 8 member party scenarios you're asking a beastmaster to play without a beast pet, a summoner not to use summons. While your at it just tell the whm not to cure, and the bard not to use songs.


No. Just no.

OK I'm getting frustrated with you people. If your a Summoner you COULD keep your pet out nobody is saying you dont get to use it. It's at the discretion of the party. It would be implied that a summoner is useless without a pet, so a summon would be more powerful than a Chocobo that everyone has. People would want you to use your pet.

[syntaxlies]

what is happening in this thread right now is what would happen if they did that