Refusal to LB3

[Sylvain]

LB3 locks you in place for roughly ten seconds: 4 to cast, 4 for the animation, and 2 afterwards that don't really let you move or attack. So if it's used at the wrong time, the caster will die and the Lb will whiff. Also, MNKs should NEVER LB3. Doing it almost guarantees they'll lose GL3. From what I remember, LB3 priority goes SAM-NIN-DRG-MNK as far as melee goes..

Isn't DPS lb only based on the user iLV?
I thought with equal gear, all melee, range and castee do the same damage respectively to their DPS category.

[Kabooa]

Isn't DPS lb only based on the user iLV?
I thought with equal gear, all melee, range and castee do the same damage respectively to their DPS category.

I forget the numbers, but I'm pretty sure the LB is based on the party's average ilvl.

The potency is stupid high, but I don't remember exactly. The ratio is something like...

if Melee is 10,000
Caster is 5,000
Ranged is 5,000

[Lyrai_Celestine]

I always recommend saving melee LB3 until the boss is at low health, of 10%.
Else, I'd save up for healer LB3. Trust me, I've been into numerous situations of early LB3s, so I learned this the hard way.

Moreover, the one who executes LB3 are literally a sitting duck for a whole 8-10 (healers for 5 seconds) seconds when executing Melee LB3. So, you have to find the right moment for it, or risk dying to an AoE or targeted mechanics. You can try communicate who will use the LB3 and when, it'll make things much easier to manage since they will leave the LB3 to you.

As for candidates, SAMs for one are very capable of Melee LB3 due to their long duration buffs. I don't play other melee, so I can't say which other classes are good at it.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Isn't DPS lb only based on the user iLV?
I thought with equal gear, all melee, range and castee do the same damage respectively to their DPS category.

It's based on the weapon level of the party. Counter intuitively, if the melee is a MNK/DRG, a caster or ranged using the LB3 is generally a dps gain, especially in the case of a MNK. Failing that, the weakest melee dps that is neither a MNK/DRG should use it.

[Ildefons]

I was in a Royal Menagerie group where I had to use LB3 2 times so we could kill the boss (yes, it was that bad).

This is after a SAM threw a fit because we asked them not to use LB3 at all, after we'd already wiped twice.

So, what I've learned is that in a PUG, the Limit Break is mine and you'll have to deal with it until we, the other healer and I, deem you competent enough to let you use it. Then it's melee DPS > Caster > Ranged. Or whoever wants to see their animation. I don't care.

I know this sounds arrogant but I'm just trying to get my party to finish the duty successfully and there are times when I've got to use every tool at my disposal, including the Limit Break. That's just me doing my job.