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  1. #51
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    Tegernako's Avatar
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    Crusina Luachra
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    i have been in favor of buffing WAR and DRK ever since it got evident that pld was op.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxXEPk3dzFg

    I don't believe you. You can say that as much as you want. The sheer pettiness of this one post spotlights exactly how you really feel.

    Even the quote you got from me has me saying 'i am in favor of buffing warrior' so what the hell do you want
    I want you to stop being disingenuous with your arguments. Because you give absolutely no reason for us to believe that you actually mean it.

    You claim you want all tanks to be fun and useful but you turn around and laugh at people who wanted those buffs and then whine exactly like the people you mocked over one tiny nerf.

    That is why I don't believe you for a second.
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    Halo kid

  2. #52
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    Sun Aurel
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tegernako View Post

    I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WANTED WAR AND DRK BUFFS and all I can give you is a pinky promise that I mean it

    fact is I play or played all of those classes on a raid level and I am interested in fluid gameplay and utility for all of them which is why I am in favour of the drk buffs and warrior buffs but not in favour of a PLD nerf to the fluidity/feelling of it + SE needs to adress the utility issue that comes up with their raid design

    it was evident from the start that they were going to change WAR and DRK so there was no harm with me enjoying that one month of being on top as well lmao so excuse me for being petty for a while for all the shit I had to put up with in Heavensward

    and nah, fuck being a nice person
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    Last edited by SunAurel; 07-16-2017 at 11:04 PM.

  3. #53
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    Tegernako's Avatar
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    Warrior is not the only class entitled to fluid gameplay lmao
    Where did I say they were?



    Quote Originally Posted by SunAurel View Post
    it was evident from the start that they were going to change WAR and DRK so there was no harm with me enjoying that one month of being on top as well lmao so excuse me for being petty for a while for all the shit I had to put up with in Heavensward
    "You know those people who were mean to me before? Let me prove I'm better then them by showing empathy...just kidding!"

    Also, why not do it to people who were actually mean to you. Why are you being petty in a place full of people you have no idea how they treated PLD players?

    Fact is you were in a good place (and still are, you even got gauge removal gone) and you given the chance to be the better person to people upset with their class or and you choose to act no better then the people who you say were rude to you in HW.

    Nobody forced you to do that. So you'll have to excuse me if I don't take your word on it.
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    Halo kid

  4. #54
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    Lady Celes
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    Welcome to the forums where people just try to get reactions out of people
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyCeles View Post
    Welcome to the forums where people just try to get reactions out of people
    I found it entertaining.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    I found it entertaining.
    The gladiator asks:

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    Halo kid

  7. #57
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    Wizhard Felfury
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tegernako View Post
    I want you to stop being disingenuous with your arguments.
    Well at least you're perfectly transparent in what you want. xD
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  8. #58
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    Fayhd Apollo
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunAurel View Post
    3.0 paladin competed with classes that can bring utility that's more valuable than group mitigation aka damage which is was a big reason why PLD was a joke while Warrior had no competition for 2 years
    You realize that even if 3.0 PLD had had the same DPS as DRK/WAR or even slightly more, they would still have been left out becaure of:
    - No Slashing Debuff
    - No Storm Path
    - No Int debuff
    - No Magic mitigation (i.e. Block)
    - No Delirium

    Yes PLD did less than the other tanks but that's not why it was out of meta, it's because their tool kit didn't fit well with the content.
    All the above issues have been resolved in 4.0. PLD is nowhere in the same position as HW, even if they are to do less DPS than DRK/WAR.
    Unless PLD is significantly lower than the other tank (like 20% less), they will still have a spot in Raid.
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  9. #59
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    Dizzy Dash
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Currently in the game Paladin does a similar amount of dps when compared to war and dark knight with a slight edge going to war and dark over pld. If I had to rank how much dps the current tanks do it would be 1. War 2. Drk 3. Pld.
    I see you made a typo. Let me help.

    Paladin does a similar amount of dps when compared to war and dark knight with a slight edge going to pld over war and dark.

    There you go all fixed
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  10. #60
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    Gravton Pentest
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Yes 3.0 pld had utility, but 4.0 pld allows us to extend our personal cooldowns to the other tank. 4.0 pld allows for both tanks to maintain 100% uptime in dps stance. Our mitigation plus the other tanks mitigation on every tank buster won't require a tank stance to mitigate and shirk solves the enmity issue that could come from the dps stance. That's the difference between the two plds not our dps, plds now bring higher party dps to the table.
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