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Thread: Refusal to LB3

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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    I LB3 all the time. I don't care if it affects my personal dps if it helps the group. However, I will only do it when I'm sure the healers won't need it to save a wipe.
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Largely because people whine if you use it and then the healers want it after. And as you probably know, no one in this community has any tact, so the whining is more like a profane rant. Then you get situations where the boss is almost dead and no one wants to LB3, so I end up trading meteors as BLM in Omega 4.0 just to use the gauge.
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    Ravishan Goldhawk
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    The underlying issue is that melee LB3 feels really bad to use. It locks you in place for eons, causes you to drop all your buffs and puts you in potentially serious danger. In my opinion they need to look at LB3 and readjust how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edgefusion View Post
    The underlying issue is that melee LB3 feels really bad to use. It locks you in place for eons, causes you to drop all your buffs and puts you in potentially serious danger. In my opinion they need to look at LB3 and readjust how it works.
    ^ This. Also when learning new content, the ability for a healer to totally prevent an ugly wipe trumps a dps using it to take a barely noticeable smidgen off the enemies healthbar.
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    Becidenne Rhymsdottir
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    How about...save it for healers until it will kill the boss. Wouldn't think this was such a hard concept. Though the reason is probably dps meters/fflogs and how you end up looking bad if you're the one who takes a personal dps hit to use it.
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    I'm not using it during my LOTD or my damage buffs up and delaying my jumps when they are up.
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    as a healer I don't really care because if no one uses LB3, good because i can use it to save a wipe.
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    Dux Dragunity
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    Just went with a high-octane DPS Susanoo Farm party last night as a DRG. Some runs we killed him before LB3 was up, but there's one where it was up. I used it. Then they said "Don't use LB3 later we deal more DPS during the time it takes to cast it". I always like "Uhh okay" but I was thinking that's kinda bs. My brother who's a top WHM in fflogs told me that Melee LB3 contributes around 800 DPS, which is almost the same DPS as the main healer. So it's always worth it to use LB3 IMO.
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    Y'aschas Massif
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    Really depends on the fight. But as others have said, healer clutch. I used it for Lakshmi EX because gotta DPS fast. But I'll hold it on Susan because if someone screws up a thunder cloud, or don't move when marked, it's often the healers/tanks being the only 2 alive and LB3. I'll usually ask before using it or wait for a signal. 5% is always the best and safest time to use it anyway. Not 50%+

    Quote Originally Posted by edgefusion View Post
    The underlying issue is that melee LB3 feels really bad to use. It locks you in place for eons, causes you to drop all your buffs and puts you in potentially serious danger. In my opinion they need to look at LB3 and readjust how it works.
    This too. Ran Royal Menagerie and ended up dying right after casting. I mean, boss died right as I was knocked off the platform but still.
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    Last edited by Clethoria; 07-16-2017 at 02:02 AM.

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    This is why I always LB immediately WHEN MECHANICS ALLOW IT.
    There is absolutely no point in saving it outside of progression parties but once the mechanics are learned and everyone is comfortable, you mash that LB button like there's no tomorrow, else you're just wasting everyone's time as well as a valuable resource.
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