Yoshi-P on Tenacity

[Kaedan]

Just watching the Live Letter and caught an interesting response from Yoshi-P. There was a question about whether Tenacity would be improved and Yoshi-P's response was:

"It's an omnipotent stat, that's why the amount it improves other stats is small. That is all"

It's a lot funnier in Japanese because he ends with "iijou desu" in a rather serious-but-funny way.

What he means by omnipotent is that it increases pretty much all aspects of tank gameplay. That's why the amount gained is small compared to other stats that only do one thing.

[ADVSS]

Just watching the Live Letter and caught an interesting response from Yoshi-P. There was a question about whether Tenacity would be improved and Yoshi-P's response was:

"It's an omnipotent stat, that's why the amount it improves other stats is small. That is all"

It's a lot funnier in Japanese because he ends with "iijou desu" in a rather serious-but-funny way.

What he means by omnipotent is that it increases pretty much all aspects of tank gameplay. That's they the amount gained is small compared to other stats that only do one thing.

Lol it wont add up to str accessories, ever. Its literally scaled like parry with less mitigation. "It is like goku's god form, blue and we have no real power level to gauge it. Even Krillin can fight Tenacity stat it is Omnipotent"

[Alistaire]

I was thinking that had to be a mistranslation. But there's still that line "I believe players will be able to feel the effects of tenacity once the Savage mode of Omega launches next week."

...which if they're not changing how it works, yeah that's not gonna happen.

[Praesul]

Tenacity is fine as is if the current stat weights are to be believed. It is infinitely better than parry even if tenacity scaled worse, since tenacity increases your damage and reliably decreases damage taken, physical and magical, with no RNG.

[VenKitsune]

The problem with tenacity is that it mitigates such a small ammount of damage, in this game the main things tanks have to worry about is tank busters and once that is dealt with they can focus on DPS, if tencacity doesn't help enough to mitigate tank busters then it will be passed up, as it is right now. perhaps if they increased either the damage scaling or damage mitigation aspect of it? as it is right now its basically a new parry.

[Praesul]

You're all going to change your tune once you'll be able to reach tenacity levels that give you a "free" tank stance (or nearly 20%)

[Mithron]

From what I understand, it's only good to a certain amount, where from then on it scales horribly so you would realistically never want more than that amount, and instead get more value from focusing on other stats like direct hit. Which isn't much different than the old accuracy.

[Dekent]

I think that's what he's worried about, when we're in ilvl 450 gear and have 3000 of it naturally, still wouldn't give us a reason to meld it though!

[DacienSanderon]

Tenacity is better than dh as is. You gain 80% of the dos benefit while taking less damage. Less damage means more healer dps. It's overall a greater dps gain than dh.

As for melding, the reason it seems useless is because melding for anything is useless. Dh gives pitiful amounts from melds as well.

Ten scales no worse than dh. It might scale much better depending on how the damage reduction works.

[Lewtskie]

Well considering tanks have no DH on gear and start from the very bottom at 0%, forcefully jamming it in will never make it great. Neither will jamming Ten into everything. We'll get enough Ten with gear and then we can clear thresholds with materia, reaching to the next %. After that it's still prolly better to focus on det and crit, maybe dh to fill the gaps.