Will the new potd come a patch to late for many players?

[kattzkitti]

I feel this has been said ad nauseum, but if you realised that speed-running is the best way for both goals it wouldn't be so bad.

Except for the extremely simple fact that the two things are mutually exclusive.

Speedruns focus the bare minimum of rooms and mob kills to find and activate the exit. Clearing extra rooms/mobs to find silver chests or whatever else is completely counter to the point.

People who are there to farm silver chests or whatever else will naturally need to explore every room, which very often leads to floors taking multiple times longer to clear. This runs completely counter to the point of speedrunning.

There really isn't any debate to be had here, the two groups have no common ground and thus you see the endless fighting both ingame and on the forum.

[Alistaire]

Except for the extremely simple fact that the two things are mutually exclusive.

Speedruns focus the bare minimum of rooms and mob kills to find and activate the exit. Clearing extra rooms/mobs to find silver chests or whatever else is completely counter to the point.

People who are there to farm silver chests or whatever else will naturally need to explore every room, which very often leads to floors taking multiple times longer to clear. This runs completely counter to the point of speedrunning.

There really isn't any debate to be had here, the two groups have no common ground and thus you see the endless fighting both ingame and on the forum.

No, that is the debate, and what you're saying is just plain not true in experience. You get more chests per hour running it speed-running than slowing down runs checking every possible spot a chest might be (because they're more often not in the rooms you go out of your way to get to).

More runs = more chests. Grabbing the ones directly on your path is much more efficient than making sure you go to every room on a floor. Time is the ultimate resource, etc etc.

[Amariel34]

No, that is the debate, and what you're saying is just plain not true in experience. You get more chests per hour running it speed-running than slowing down runs checking every possible spot a chest might be (because they're more often not in the rooms you go out of your way to get to).

More runs = more chests. Grabbing the ones directly on your path is much more efficient than making sure you go to every room on a floor. Time is the ultimate resource, etc etc.

Actually this depends on the people you end up with. I got into two runs where they would SKIP silver chests that were right there and just sit at the exit waiting on me while I got them since I needed them to power my gear. So some groups are in such a hurry that they don't want to hit up any chests at all, even if it was RIGHT BESIDE THE EXIT. But they didn't need them so they didn't care about anyone else in the group. *shrugs*

[YitharV2]

Actually this depends on the people you end up with. I got into two runs where they would SKIP silver chests that were right there and just sit at the exit waiting on me while I got them since I needed them to power my gear. So some groups are in such a hurry that they don't want to hit up any chests at all, even if it was RIGHT BESIDE THE EXIT. But they didn't need them so they didn't care about anyone else in the group. *shrugs*

I don't pick them up because explosions. But if you're traveling together as a group it shouldn't really matter.